137LikesTeam Associated RC10 B5m Mid-Motor & Rear Motor Thread
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04-16-2014, 04:54 PM
#8506
Anyone else have a lot of play in the rear arms, specifically the rear inner hinge pins? Mine had almost 1mm of slop on each side. I made some shims out of factory team ball stud washers (didn't have any plastic washers) but wow that was a lot of play in the rear. Otherwise the kit has been great so far.
I just installed the AE alum top shaft and it is much free'er. Weight aside, there is definitely less friction in the drive terrain.
04-16-2014, 05:28 PM
#8507
04-16-2014, 05:38 PM
#8508
Just to be clear those two comments are different topics right? I want to pick up the alloy top shaft...got to build another order. Was pretty happy that the 22t came with several non stock parts I was going to add (30 deg AL kick up, 3.0 deg LRC rear toe plate) so I have a few bucks I set aside.
04-16-2014, 05:54 PM
#8509
Sorry... I may have brought this up prior.
I'm not understanding the indifferent to negative claim from many folks about the stock VTS slipper. Weight aside... is it bad ? I've always thought the VTS was a nice upgrade in adjustment and holding up from AE's previous standard slipper. I was quite happy with the VTS upgrade going from a B44.1 to a B44.2 . The VTS also seems to feel just fine with no change in performance to me on my B5m.
What am I missing here ? I still haven't run a Triad/Nova slipper setup. Really that noticeable? I hate plunking down money if it's just going to feel the same to me in the end.
A couple months ago, I was got into a conversation with a couple highly skilled drivers (perhaps AE team drivers, perhaps not) here at home in OC that I trust. These 2 drivers did nothing but slipper testing for like 2 days straight. In the end, the standard AE slipper with the vented plates and high torque pads was the most consistent and preference of choice. In fact, they both still run that setup over all other options. Just something to think and add to the tuning options I suppose.
I'm not understanding the indifferent to negative claim from many folks about the stock VTS slipper. Weight aside... is it bad ? I've always thought the VTS was a nice upgrade in adjustment and holding up from AE's previous standard slipper. I was quite happy with the VTS upgrade going from a B44.1 to a B44.2 . The VTS also seems to feel just fine with no change in performance to me on my B5m.
What am I missing here ? I still haven't run a Triad/Nova slipper setup. Really that noticeable? I hate plunking down money if it's just going to feel the same to me in the end.
A couple months ago, I was got into a conversation with a couple highly skilled drivers (perhaps AE team drivers, perhaps not) here at home in OC that I trust. These 2 drivers did nothing but slipper testing for like 2 days straight. In the end, the standard AE slipper with the vented plates and high torque pads was the most consistent and preference of choice. In fact, they both still run that setup over all other options. Just something to think and add to the tuning options I suppose.
04-16-2014, 06:44 PM
#8510
Actually I'm still recovering from a LOOOOOOONG weekend at the Long Beach Grand Prix and haven't run it yet. Ron Schuur assures me that it will be unnoticeable, and I know that Sean Cochran is equipping all the new Reedy ESC's with 14g wire even for the Mod classes (I know that's not possible, a mod motor wont run on anything less than 4 gauge but what would those guys know anyway!)
04-16-2014, 08:19 PM
#8511
Actually I'm still recovering from a LOOOOOOONG weekend at the Long Beach Grand Prix and haven't run it yet. Ron Schuur assures me that it will be unnoticeable, and I know that Sean Cochran is equipping all the new Reedy ESC's with 14g wire even for the Mod classes (I know that's not possible, a mod motor wont run on anything less than 4 gauge but what would those guys know anyway!)
04-16-2014, 09:17 PM
#8512
Tech Adept
I don't understand why a lower power motor is so critical of all things power related. like guys saying a 40C pack is fine for mod but you need 90c+ for stock??!?!? I think stock class guys just REALLY like spending money thinking it gives them an edge.
04-17-2014, 12:51 AM
#8513
Now maybe in mod since you have all the power you need lower C batteries are preferred since they remove a lil punch. But in stock we get all the battery we can get, I actually prefer 100C packs right now!
04-17-2014, 08:29 AM
#8514
Tech Master
iTrader: (4)
Sorry... I may have brought this up prior.
I'm not understanding the indifferent to negative claim from many folks about the stock VTS slipper. Weight aside... is it bad ? I've always thought the VTS was a nice upgrade in adjustment and holding up from AE's previous standard slipper. I was quite happy with the VTS upgrade going from a B44.1 to a B44.2 . The VTS also seems to feel just fine with no change in performance to me on my B5m.
What am I missing here ? I still haven't run a Triad/Nova slipper setup. Really that noticeable? I hate plunking down money if it's just going to feel the same to me in the end.
A couple months ago, I was got into a conversation with a couple highly skilled drivers (perhaps AE team drivers, perhaps not) here at home in OC that I trust. These 2 drivers did nothing but slipper testing for like 2 days straight. In the end, the standard AE slipper with the vented plates and high torque pads was the most consistent and preference of choice. In fact, they both still run that setup over all other options. Just something to think and add to the tuning options I suppose.
I'm not understanding the indifferent to negative claim from many folks about the stock VTS slipper. Weight aside... is it bad ? I've always thought the VTS was a nice upgrade in adjustment and holding up from AE's previous standard slipper. I was quite happy with the VTS upgrade going from a B44.1 to a B44.2 . The VTS also seems to feel just fine with no change in performance to me on my B5m.
What am I missing here ? I still haven't run a Triad/Nova slipper setup. Really that noticeable? I hate plunking down money if it's just going to feel the same to me in the end.
A couple months ago, I was got into a conversation with a couple highly skilled drivers (perhaps AE team drivers, perhaps not) here at home in OC that I trust. These 2 drivers did nothing but slipper testing for like 2 days straight. In the end, the standard AE slipper with the vented plates and high torque pads was the most consistent and preference of choice. In fact, they both still run that setup over all other options. Just something to think and add to the tuning options I suppose.
17.5 motors just do not have the torque. I have taken the new slipper and loosened the slipper to where the slipper gear thread is slightly inside the nut. Loose as hell because I can spin the slipper with my finger.
Then I hold both wheels and punch it and the motor cannot spin the slipper.
It almost seems that no matter where you set it doesnt matter to me.
In the end the only reason I really use the slipper for is for hard on power landings to save the drive train. Now with Triad and Schelle variants I am willing to try to see if they help. As far as Mod goes it will definitly make a difference.
Your comments please
04-17-2014, 08:35 AM
#8515
We ran slippers on 27 turn stock brushed motors back in the day. A 17.5 brushless definitely has plenty of torque.
04-17-2014, 09:07 AM
#8516
The slipper does not just help control wheel spin when accelerating.
It also helps smooth entering the corners by smoothing out the weight transfer when slowing down.
VTS is quite capable of getting her done and
Proper adjustment & maintenance makes a bigger difference then the style slipper you choose.
Speaking of slipper maintenance, yesterday a team mate of mine showed off a slipper pad cleaner given to him by Hartson.
Did not get the name of the thing, sorry.
Somebody needs to post a image of as it is so kool and a must have item in anyone's pit.
It also helps smooth entering the corners by smoothing out the weight transfer when slowing down.
VTS is quite capable of getting her done and
Proper adjustment & maintenance makes a bigger difference then the style slipper you choose.
Speaking of slipper maintenance, yesterday a team mate of mine showed off a slipper pad cleaner given to him by Hartson.
Did not get the name of the thing, sorry.
Somebody needs to post a image of as it is so kool and a must have item in anyone's pit.
04-17-2014, 09:18 AM
#8517
The slipper does not just help control wheel spin when accelerating.
It also helps smooth entering the corners by smoothing out the weight transfer when slowing down.
VTS is quite capable of getting her done and
Proper adjustment & maintenance makes a bigger difference then the style slipper you choose.
Speaking of slipper maintenance, yesterday a team mate of mine showed off a slipper pad cleaner given to him by Hartson.
Did not get the name of the thing, sorry.
Somebody needs to post a image of as it is so kool and a must have item in anyone's pit.
It also helps smooth entering the corners by smoothing out the weight transfer when slowing down.
VTS is quite capable of getting her done and
Proper adjustment & maintenance makes a bigger difference then the style slipper you choose.
Speaking of slipper maintenance, yesterday a team mate of mine showed off a slipper pad cleaner given to him by Hartson.
Did not get the name of the thing, sorry.
Somebody needs to post a image of as it is so kool and a must have item in anyone's pit.
http://shop.leadfingerrc.com/Diff-Co...l-LFR10089.htm
04-17-2014, 09:29 AM
#8519
My RM comes in today....cant wait
04-17-2014, 09:55 AM
#8520
The slipper does not just help control wheel spin when accelerating.
It also helps smooth entering the corners by smoothing out the weight transfer when slowing down.
VTS is quite capable of getting her done and
Proper adjustment & maintenance makes a bigger difference then the style slipper you choose.
Speaking of slipper maintenance, yesterday a team mate of mine showed off a slipper pad cleaner given to him by Hartson.
Did not get the name of the thing, sorry.
Somebody needs to post a image of as it is so kool and a must have item in anyone's pit.
It also helps smooth entering the corners by smoothing out the weight transfer when slowing down.
VTS is quite capable of getting her done and
Proper adjustment & maintenance makes a bigger difference then the style slipper you choose.
Speaking of slipper maintenance, yesterday a team mate of mine showed off a slipper pad cleaner given to him by Hartson.
Did not get the name of the thing, sorry.
Somebody needs to post a image of as it is so kool and a must have item in anyone's pit.