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Old 03-20-2014, 08:08 AM
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Have used smiliar fiberglass pads , the yellow Ae performance is far better.
The Avid & VTS is best for lower traction conditions.
The twin pad V2 slipper with yellow pads is better on higher traction compared to the rest.
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Old 03-20-2014, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Graham11
is there a chassis protector out yet for the b5m?
Stick it has them clear or graphics

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Originally Posted by Graham11
is there a chassis protector out yet for the b5m?
Upgrade has them
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
Jordon

Have used smiliar fiberglass pads , the yellow Ae performance is far better.
The Avid & VTS is best for lower traction conditions.
The twin pad V2 slipper with yellow pads is better on higher traction compared to the rest.
I run on low traction, but your opinion on the pads is unreliable at best...
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Old 03-20-2014, 09:11 AM
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Good luck with that slipper...
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where did that "like" button go?

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Originally Posted by racer1812
where did that "like" button go?

You should really try and get one added....at the minimum to all of the AE product threads.
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Originally Posted by Matt Trimmings
You should really try and get one added....at the minimum to all of the AE product threads.
I've got to talk to IB anyway, I'll add it to the list of things that will likely never happen.....
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The reason that the arms and towers need to be matched up is simple geometry. Take one of them, lets say the gullwing set, and draw a straight line from the inner hinge pin to the mounting point of the shock. Now draw a line from that point through the shock. Look at that angle. Now draw a straight line from the inner hinge pin to the lower shock mounting point on a straight arm. If the shock were still on the same tower, the angle from the hinge pin/lower mount to the shock would be different. In order to keep this the same you'd need to move the top of the shocks inwards which AE does with the corresponding arms. Location for location between each set of arms, the only way to keep the shock leverage the same for each is to also move the top of the shocks over.

The difference in handling between a gullwing and a straight arm has nothing to do with the fact that the arm is straight or not. It has everything to do with the shocks. With the gullwing arms, the shocks are mounted slightly lower which slightly lowers the cg of the front. But the top of the shocks mount slightly farther out meaning that while the front cg is slightly lower, that weight is spread out over a slightly wider area. The straight arms mount the shocks slightly higher which means the front cg will be slightly higher than the gullwing car but the tops of the shocks will be inwards a bit more which means the shock weight will be more central than on the gullwing car.

It is the slight change in front cg height and the location that the shock weight is spread out over laterally that ultimately effects the handling of the front of the car. Hopefully this quick little illustration that I did will explain it.
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Originally Posted by predu
a guy at the track broke a front arm and was running flat arms with stock M tower.he said it felt good and got second in mod on a medium/low bite track.
I mean, it works. He should have noticed he had to set his shock collars at the top in a much different position than before. Also tell him to check his front ride heights after some drops on the bench. It should be low. Really low! As Sean Cochran stated, the geometry will be off and limit the uptravel on the shocks if you have a B5m tower and flat arms. Car was off and not consistent for me before I realized the error of running that configuration. Just get the flat arms and tower and be done with it
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Is Wild Cherry still in here giving "teammates" advice?

I remember my first aquaintance.
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Originally Posted by rigor
I mean, it works. He should have noticed he had to set his shock collars at the top in a much different position than before. Also tell him to check his front ride heights after some drops on the bench. It should be low. Really low! As Sean Cochran stated, the geometry will be off and limit the uptravel on the shocks if you have a B5m tower and flat arms. Car was off and not consistent for me before I realized the error of running that configuration. Just get the flat arms and tower and be done with it
he is a pretty good racer from out of town. he knew there was a different tower and it is in stock at our track but did it anyway and liked it. i guess when the ryan's do it maybe then people will try it and might like it. I dunno. he said ride height was good and used the same hole up top also. he got 2nd in expert mod at a track he only raced a couple times, first place was one of our regular experts.
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Originally Posted by Captcha
Is Wild Cherry still in here giving "teammates" advice?

I remember my first aquaintance.
I remember Wild Cherry from the SC10 4x4 thread...
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Old 03-20-2014, 11:28 AM
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Default Wild Cherry experience with slipper designs

Basket or 3 pad designs are great for lower traction.
They slip smoother and help control wheel spin very well.

Yet on higher traction these designs can ramp or slip just before the jump and tend to snap or lock up unexpected while accelerating .

Twin pad or the V2 vented design does not experience these issues on higher grip surfaces.
I stopped using 3 pads about
5 months ago and do not even wish to go back to 3 .
Yellow pads or Avid white & red pads still can't be beat performance wise.
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
I stopped using 3 pads about
5 months ago and do not even wish to go back to 3 .
Yellow pads or Avid white & red pads still can't be beat performance wise.
You stopped using 3 pads and dont wish to go back to them yet they cant be beat performance wise.....
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