Team Associated RC10 B5m Mid-Motor & Rear Motor Thread
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#6676
Jordon
Have used smiliar fiberglass pads , the yellow Ae performance is far better.
The Avid & VTS is best for lower traction conditions.
The twin pad V2 slipper with yellow pads is better on higher traction compared to the rest.
Have used smiliar fiberglass pads , the yellow Ae performance is far better.
The Avid & VTS is best for lower traction conditions.
The twin pad V2 slipper with yellow pads is better on higher traction compared to the rest.
#6677
#6680
Jordan
Good luck with that slipper...
Good luck with that slipper...
#6681
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where did that "like" button go?
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#6684
The reason that the arms and towers need to be matched up is simple geometry. Take one of them, lets say the gullwing set, and draw a straight line from the inner hinge pin to the mounting point of the shock. Now draw a line from that point through the shock. Look at that angle. Now draw a straight line from the inner hinge pin to the lower shock mounting point on a straight arm. If the shock were still on the same tower, the angle from the hinge pin/lower mount to the shock would be different. In order to keep this the same you'd need to move the top of the shocks inwards which AE does with the corresponding arms. Location for location between each set of arms, the only way to keep the shock leverage the same for each is to also move the top of the shocks over.
The difference in handling between a gullwing and a straight arm has nothing to do with the fact that the arm is straight or not. It has everything to do with the shocks. With the gullwing arms, the shocks are mounted slightly lower which slightly lowers the cg of the front. But the top of the shocks mount slightly farther out meaning that while the front cg is slightly lower, that weight is spread out over a slightly wider area. The straight arms mount the shocks slightly higher which means the front cg will be slightly higher than the gullwing car but the tops of the shocks will be inwards a bit more which means the shock weight will be more central than on the gullwing car.
It is the slight change in front cg height and the location that the shock weight is spread out over laterally that ultimately effects the handling of the front of the car. Hopefully this quick little illustration that I did will explain it.
The difference in handling between a gullwing and a straight arm has nothing to do with the fact that the arm is straight or not. It has everything to do with the shocks. With the gullwing arms, the shocks are mounted slightly lower which slightly lowers the cg of the front. But the top of the shocks mount slightly farther out meaning that while the front cg is slightly lower, that weight is spread out over a slightly wider area. The straight arms mount the shocks slightly higher which means the front cg will be slightly higher than the gullwing car but the tops of the shocks will be inwards a bit more which means the shock weight will be more central than on the gullwing car.
It is the slight change in front cg height and the location that the shock weight is spread out over laterally that ultimately effects the handling of the front of the car. Hopefully this quick little illustration that I did will explain it.
#6685
Tech Master
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I mean, it works. He should have noticed he had to set his shock collars at the top in a much different position than before. Also tell him to check his front ride heights after some drops on the bench. It should be low. Really low! As Sean Cochran stated, the geometry will be off and limit the uptravel on the shocks if you have a B5m tower and flat arms. Car was off and not consistent for me before I realized the error of running that configuration. Just get the flat arms and tower and be done with it
#6687
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I mean, it works. He should have noticed he had to set his shock collars at the top in a much different position than before. Also tell him to check his front ride heights after some drops on the bench. It should be low. Really low! As Sean Cochran stated, the geometry will be off and limit the uptravel on the shocks if you have a B5m tower and flat arms. Car was off and not consistent for me before I realized the error of running that configuration. Just get the flat arms and tower and be done with it
#6689
Wild Cherry experience with slipper designs
Basket or 3 pad designs are great for lower traction.
They slip smoother and help control wheel spin very well.
Yet on higher traction these designs can ramp or slip just before the jump and tend to snap or lock up unexpected while accelerating .
Twin pad or the V2 vented design does not experience these issues on higher grip surfaces.
I stopped using 3 pads about
5 months ago and do not even wish to go back to 3 .
Yellow pads or Avid white & red pads still can't be beat performance wise.
They slip smoother and help control wheel spin very well.
Yet on higher traction these designs can ramp or slip just before the jump and tend to snap or lock up unexpected while accelerating .
Twin pad or the V2 vented design does not experience these issues on higher grip surfaces.
I stopped using 3 pads about
5 months ago and do not even wish to go back to 3 .
Yellow pads or Avid white & red pads still can't be beat performance wise.