137LikesTeam Associated RC10 B5m Mid-Motor & Rear Motor Thread
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02-13-2014, 11:32 AM
#3422
02-13-2014, 11:45 AM
#3426
To take away push entering a corner
You can try simple things first. Make sure your ride height is right, then maybe take out some rear camber or take out some rear toe. Add a liitle toe out in the front. There's alot of things to do but those are some easy ones
You can try simple things first. Make sure your ride height is right, then maybe take out some rear camber or take out some rear toe. Add a liitle toe out in the front. There's alot of things to do but those are some easy ones
02-13-2014, 11:52 AM
#3427
The stock spring for the front of the b5 rear motor is green which is one "stage" heavier than black. White comes stock on the b5m, which is two stages heavier than black.
The first thing I would change if my car has an evident push, is tire compound. Front push is cause by 2 things; A.) to much initial momentum, B.) more rear traction than front traction. If you have a push, it is because your car is not grabbing in the front end.
If changing the tires, and compound did not help, I would then go to making the shock softer. For instance, kit is 30 wt front oil, white spring. A white front is 3.15 I believe. I went to a thicker oil, of 32.5, but a black spring, which is 2 stages softer on spring. I went up on the oil, 1 stage because I didnt want to lose overall dampening, but wanted a softer feel of the front end for it to bite more. If I went to a green spring with harder oil, that is only 1 stage in both directions and would essentially yield no difference in feel.
At this point, I now had more front traction than rear traction, MUCH easier to deal with in my eyes. I tried different tires first again, helped but didn't cure. Went down to 27.5 shock oil from the kit recommended 30, and VOILA!
To each their own on setup, but this is my method of attacking traction related issues.. Always one change at a time, unless wtih my front shocks, two were needed to make that change effective.
If changing the tires, and compound did not help, I would then go to making the shock softer. For instance, kit is 30 wt front oil, white spring. A white front is 3.15 I believe. I went to a thicker oil, of 32.5, but a black spring, which is 2 stages softer on spring. I went up on the oil, 1 stage because I didnt want to lose overall dampening, but wanted a softer feel of the front end for it to bite more. If I went to a green spring with harder oil, that is only 1 stage in both directions and would essentially yield no difference in feel.
At this point, I now had more front traction than rear traction, MUCH easier to deal with in my eyes. I tried different tires first again, helped but didn't cure. Went down to 27.5 shock oil from the kit recommended 30, and VOILA!
To each their own on setup, but this is my method of attacking traction related issues.. Always one change at a time, unless wtih my front shocks, two were needed to make that change effective.
02-13-2014, 12:01 PM
#3429
02-13-2014, 12:07 PM
#3431
The first thing I would change if my car has an evident push, is tire compound. Front push is cause by 2 things; A.) to much initial momentum, B.) more rear traction than front traction. If you have a push, it is because your car is not grabbing in the front end.
If changing the tires, and compound did not help, I would then go to making the shock softer. For instance, kit is 30 wt front oil, white spring. A white front is 3.15 I believe. I went to a thicker oil, of 32.5, but a black spring, which is 2 stages softer on spring. I went up on the oil, 1 stage because I didnt want to lose overall dampening, but wanted a softer feel of the front end for it to bite more. If I went to a green spring with harder oil, that is only 1 stage in both directions and would essentially yield no difference in feel.
At this point, I now had more front traction than rear traction, MUCH easier to deal with in my eyes. I tried different tires first again, helped but didn't cure. Went down to 27.5 shock oil from the kit recommended 30, and VOILA!
To each their own on setup, but this is my method of attacking traction related issues.. Always one change at a time, unless wtih my front shocks, two were needed to make that change effective.
If changing the tires, and compound did not help, I would then go to making the shock softer. For instance, kit is 30 wt front oil, white spring. A white front is 3.15 I believe. I went to a thicker oil, of 32.5, but a black spring, which is 2 stages softer on spring. I went up on the oil, 1 stage because I didnt want to lose overall dampening, but wanted a softer feel of the front end for it to bite more. If I went to a green spring with harder oil, that is only 1 stage in both directions and would essentially yield no difference in feel.
At this point, I now had more front traction than rear traction, MUCH easier to deal with in my eyes. I tried different tires first again, helped but didn't cure. Went down to 27.5 shock oil from the kit recommended 30, and VOILA!
To each their own on setup, but this is my method of attacking traction related issues.. Always one change at a time, unless wtih my front shocks, two were needed to make that change effective.
02-13-2014, 12:14 PM
#3432
More help please Captcha.
Gticlay has the correct compound & tires already.
Can't understand how softer front springs or changing front oil & piston could help him.
So please explain how softer springs in front will cure on power push .
tip for those who need to know
On power push is cause by the front end raising while accelerating
Gticlay has the correct compound & tires already.
Can't understand how softer front springs or changing front oil & piston could help him.
So please explain how softer springs in front will cure on power push .
tip for those who need to know
On power push is cause by the front end raising while accelerating
02-13-2014, 12:17 PM
#3433
Some help
Gticlay has the correct compound & tires already.
Can't understand how softer front springs or changing oil & piston could help him.
So please explain how softer springs in front will cure on power push .
tip for those who need to know
On power push is cause by the front end raising while accelerating
Gticlay has the correct compound & tires already.
Can't understand how softer front springs or changing oil & piston could help him.
So please explain how softer springs in front will cure on power push .
tip for those who need to know
On power push is cause by the front end raising while accelerating
BTW, it's not a bad push - just something I'd prefer to resolve than try to drive around.
02-13-2014, 12:19 PM
#3434
Also there are more contributing factors to front end push to more than just, "the front end raising" It is based off an overall lack of traction, WHATEVER may be causing it, not just it lifting off the ground.
02-13-2014, 12:22 PM
#3435
You both are right, I had the fron and rear reverse in my head. I did try with the kit spring, and still had push, hence why I went to the black front.
Also there are more contributing factors to front end push to more than just, "the front end raising" It is based off an overall lack of traction, WHATEVER may be causing it, not just it lifting off the ground.
Also there are more contributing factors to front end push to more than just, "the front end raising" It is based off an overall lack of traction, WHATEVER may be causing it, not just it lifting off the ground.