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Old 12-12-2013, 10:03 AM
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Tamak, tell me about keeping up with his setup, lol. He races with us he will do his shocks differently 3x during a club race.
It's all for the continuous quest of finding the new limit!
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Old 12-12-2013, 10:09 AM
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No, he just is never satisfied, lol.

He is a great guy to talk to though, and has a plethora of knowledge.
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Old 12-12-2013, 10:13 AM
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No, he just is never satisfied, lol.

He is a great guy to talk to though, and has a plethora of knowledge.
You don't get to be a World Champion and designer of very successful cars by saying its "good enough." Reminds me of a Chrysler commercial from a few years back- "If we all settled for good enough, would anything ever really be good enough?" Its just funny that it was a Chrysler commercial...
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I love my Rear Motor SRX2. I will be getting the MM version as well as I do run on astro and carpet often where my RM car is not the best so looking forward to the MM! Waiting for the pre-order on amain!
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Originally Posted by Waflet View Post
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I don't understand your comment. The centro & the xfactory (& I'm guessing the smx-2) are capable of running saddle packs or shorties. What other configs would "take advantage" of the chassis more?
My point was counter to the assertion that a dedicated mid motor car had significant advantages over a conversion. Both of the cars you cite are B4 conversions. It appears that we agree with each other.
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Default conversions vs dedicated mm car

A dedicated car that began as a mid motor, will usually be much better than a conversion from a different maker because:
1) it is cheaper, since you don't have to buy a rear car and then convert it:
a) serpent spyder mid will cost $300
b) centro c4.2 is $160 + b4.2
c) xfactory cubed is $225 + b4.2
2) you will get more molded parts because:
a) machining and stamping is much cheaper than creating molds
3) the fit and finish will all match (all plastic bits, chassis, etc.)
4) replacement parts will be cheaper since a dedicated car will produce many more units (economies of scale)

Having 2 separate cars (rm and mm) is the way to go. In addition, maybe serpent will come out with a conversion kit from rm to mm (if they price it at about $100, (chassis, body, rear bulkhead, rear tower, some plastic bits) it will sell quite well, and the combination of rm + conversion will be close in price to the centro + b4.2)
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Originally Posted by Davidka View Post
My point was counter to the assertion that a dedicated mid motor car had significant advantages over a conversion. Both of the cars you cite are B4 conversions. It appears that we agree with each other.
Conversion or convertible cars? Either way, having the battery turned sideways (side by side saddle or sideways shorty) is superior to running an inline battery that the convertible cars run (on dirt that is). I've driven both types of battery setups on the same car and can attest to that.

This car looks pretty awesome. I wonder what the race ready weight is? It's gotta be light. Hopefully they make it 3/4 gear swappable. Then I'd consider buying one.
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Originally Posted by billjacobs View Post
A dedicated car that began as a mid motor, will usually be much better than a conversion from a different maker because:
1) it is cheaper, since you don't have to buy a rear car and then convert it:
a) serpent spyder mid will cost $300
b) centro c4.2 is $160 + b4.2
c) xfactory cubed is $225 + b4.2
2) you will get more molded parts because:
a) machining and stamping is much cheaper than creating molds
3) the fit and finish will all match (all plastic bits, chassis, etc.)
4) replacement parts will be cheaper since a dedicated car will produce many more units (economies of scale)

Having 2 separate cars (rm and mm) is the way to go. In addition, maybe serpent will come out with a conversion kit from rm to mm (if they price it at about $100, (chassis, body, rear bulkhead, rear tower, some plastic bits) it will sell quite well, and the combination of rm + conversion will be close in price to the centro + b4.2)
Couldn't agree more. Bang on the money.
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Kit is inexpensive and a great value! But, I will say the parts are the most expensive out of that group. And like any car that is not supported at the local shop right now, initial investment will be high. I love my Serpent but I would not say this car is a low budget racer at this point in time.

Price for set of arms:
Losi: $16.5
Kyosho: $20.24
Centro: $14.64
Serpent: $18.5

Outdrives:
Losi: $17.99
Kyosho: $10.99
Centro: $17.99
Serpent: $24.5

Piston set:
Losi: $12.75
Kyosho: $12.78
Centro: $13.49
Serpent: $15.99

Alloy Bulkhead:
Losi: $22.49
Kyosho (Yaiba): $20
Centro: $22.49
Serpent: $36.99

In my opinion that's not a fair comparison.
The plastic and steel on the Serpent should be compared to a Xray product.
The quality of the manufactures you mentioned above does not compare to the Serpents Q.C.
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Awesome! Thank you! I think shocks and hubs are the only things common on the back end

Definitely not the same lid.

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Looks excellent! Notice how you don't have to disassemble the rear end to make a rear camber link adjustment. Very nice.
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Looks great. Can't wait. Thanks for sharing the pics.
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Originally Posted by Jonny5 View Post
Looks excellent! Notice how you don't have to disassemble the rear end to make a rear camber link adjustment. Very nice.
You dont have to on the rear motor car either if you have one of these

http://www.serpentamerica.com/shop/p...&cat=39&page=3

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Originally Posted by chicky03 View Post
You dont have to on the rear motor car either if you have one of these

http://www.serpentamerica.com/shop/s...=search&page=1
I was saying that in comparison to the Centro and Kyosho. Both require disassembly to make adjustments there.
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