Schumacher Cougar KF!!!
11-13-2013, 01:30 AM
#49
Tech Regular
I wonder how much extra drag this will cause? Would be good to see this option on the K1 as well.
11-13-2013, 07:50 AM
#51
Originally Posted by Tony Newland
U4456 I believe fits both cars
11-13-2013, 09:58 AM
#53
Originally Posted by Tony Newland
Where at spu?
11-13-2013, 01:31 PM
#55
Tech Regular
Noticed some running shocks on the rear and some front
11-13-2013, 02:18 PM
#56
thats a dope layout
11-13-2013, 02:42 PM
#57
Tech Master
The shocks can be run on the rear, but you need the alloy top mounts. The kit plastic ones really are only suitable for front shock mounting.
There are some features in the chassis that I think locate the shortie battery mounting system. So that's something else that might take it away from fitting the K1. Might well be possible to make it fit, but I'd guess it won't drop straight onto the K1 as it sits right now.
There are some features in the chassis that I think locate the shortie battery mounting system. So that's something else that might take it away from fitting the K1. Might well be possible to make it fit, but I'd guess it won't drop straight onto the K1 as it sits right now.
11-13-2013, 05:21 PM
#59
I'm pre-ordering one of these just for the sake of building up my Schumacher collection, but I can't see myself ever driving it. The car will be a box-art shelf queen in my study.
Based on my experience with the SX3/Cougar which is essentially identical to the KF, it will be rubbish on anything less than super high traction. On a freshly goop'd track, the car was very easy to drive and I was actually faster than my SV2, but as the track degraded in the following weeks, I couldn't throw a setup at the car which would give any rear traction (this included 80grams of copper hanging off the bumper).
A lot of people have mentioned great rear weight distribution, but that's far from accurate. Sure a battery can be a little heavier than a motor, but look at the dimensions of the KF vs a traditional mid motor car. The SV2 has the motor positioned right at the rear wishbones, with the battery directly in front. The KF/K1 has the battery starting 20mm further forward and then you have another 35mm between the battery and the motor. This gives a very low rear weight bias. Using a shorty would make it even worse. The equivalent would be an SV2 with the motor mounted 20mm further forward with another 20mm spacer between the saddles and motor. No one would dream to run a car like that on anything but fly paper. I'd love to be proven wrong, but logically, I can't see this car being much use outside of EU.
Based on my experience with the SX3/Cougar which is essentially identical to the KF, it will be rubbish on anything less than super high traction. On a freshly goop'd track, the car was very easy to drive and I was actually faster than my SV2, but as the track degraded in the following weeks, I couldn't throw a setup at the car which would give any rear traction (this included 80grams of copper hanging off the bumper).
A lot of people have mentioned great rear weight distribution, but that's far from accurate. Sure a battery can be a little heavier than a motor, but look at the dimensions of the KF vs a traditional mid motor car. The SV2 has the motor positioned right at the rear wishbones, with the battery directly in front. The KF/K1 has the battery starting 20mm further forward and then you have another 35mm between the battery and the motor. This gives a very low rear weight bias. Using a shorty would make it even worse. The equivalent would be an SV2 with the motor mounted 20mm further forward with another 20mm spacer between the saddles and motor. No one would dream to run a car like that on anything but fly paper. I'd love to be proven wrong, but logically, I can't see this car being much use outside of EU.
11-13-2013, 05:30 PM
#60
The almost, 20mm longer wheelbase (285mm) aids in weight bias to the rear. The original SV and SV2 both are very short (267mm), therefore putting much more bias on the front tires. If you picture the forward most part of either the motor or battery in both cars the KF is much further back than the SV2. With the majority of the weight further back the pivot point will be further back
Also most indoor USA tracks are fairly high grip, we run mostly worn out tires here or what we call ghost pins and sometimes full slicks. After looking at Toms setups from the worlds the car appeared to have more rear grip than most, the reason I say that is his front shocks were stood up as far as the towers would allow to increase steering response while the rest were running the front shocks laid down to lessen response and steering.
I think the car will be versatile on a variety of surfaces, time will tell
Also most indoor USA tracks are fairly high grip, we run mostly worn out tires here or what we call ghost pins and sometimes full slicks. After looking at Toms setups from the worlds the car appeared to have more rear grip than most, the reason I say that is his front shocks were stood up as far as the towers would allow to increase steering response while the rest were running the front shocks laid down to lessen response and steering.
I think the car will be versatile on a variety of surfaces, time will tell
