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Old 06-29-2005, 10:24 PM   #1
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would this be cool or what....

have a Vintage race...

where AE and Losi boys run the first 2wd buggy and truck edition produced..

mayb even with no setup advise or anything..no coaches..
every driver for himself on setup...

but also let non factory guys run the class....

Kinwald...Hodapp...Pavedis...

think the young kids could handle the old schools on their own?
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Old 06-29-2005, 11:03 PM   #2
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LOL....a classic race
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that would be interesting, but I wouldn't be suprised they start slapping on mods right away.

Make them run the old school tires and old school motors + batts too!
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That would be something different.Was there such thing of mod motors back then or was it only the 540 silver cans?

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start a stock class with the grasshopper that came back, and make everyone run the stock motor. the lap times would be a joke, but it would be fun and cheap.
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Old 06-30-2005, 11:49 PM   #6
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Back when Losi came out with the JRX2 there were mod motors. I know I raced back then. I used to race an old RC10 Graphite and those were the good old days. In CA Race Prep hond wounds were the stuff. They used to make stock motors that were really fast too. We also only ran 4min races with 1700sce batteries..LOL
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you know the sad thing is, even if we did have our new cars, we would still get owned.
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Give me an old school RC10 tub chassis team car and I still think it can be competitive. Remember the RC10GT is based on the original RC10T suspension which is based on the RC10 chassis. If you really wanna see a good race Kyosho Optima's, Gold short armed RC10, and the 5 link JRX2, then you might get a pretty good laugh.
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Funny thing is, with blue groove racing - I think a factory level driver with an "old school" car (but modern tires) would whip most club level racers. Personally, I think tires have as much to do with how fast we are going in offroad as anything else. How many club level races do you see where stock lap times are damn close to mod?
I've got an old LXT I set up for my son with a 15 yr old stock motor and was running some old 1700 cells I hadn't thrown away yet. With some Losi reds on the rear of it It was as fast as anything on the track (lap time wise). Granted, those old cells wouldn't even make 3 minutes.
On a rougher track, I'm sure the superior geometry of the newer chassis would help a lot, but on a hardpack smooth track - Oldschool is not too bad. Besides, the AD2 added an option to SHORTEN the arms. HMMMM.
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That would be cool.... I still have my RC10 Tub chassis car and I have a stock Losi JRX-T.
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I think you could still be competitive at a club level with an RC10T, so in a pro race with other professionals it would still be a good race. Only reason you wouldn't want to run an RC10T nowdays is because once you break an arm its harder to find parts.

I can see it now, Tamiya Frog Classic, or the Blackfoot Invitational. The monster truck class will have nothing but Clodbusters. Hrm. Thinking about it, racing is cooler now than ever. :0
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Hrm. Thinking about it, racing is cooler now than ever. :0

I would have to disagree. I miss the days where we had three classes. Truck, Buggy and novice. It was decided by the group as to run stock or mod. All the classes had at least a B main some even a C. Now We are lucky to have enough to have an B main since there are 7 classes now. Qualifiers feel like more of a chore than anything. It sucks knowing I'm in the A just by showing up.
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SoCal R/C ran the last Killer Klassic race I think, it was on-road but was very cool - all the old school pro racers were invited and most showed up. Those that didn't race hung out for a bit with the ones that were racing, and they were using Novak servos, wiper speed controls and Futaba brown boxes I'm sure something could be organized with a track in SoCal somewhere, you just need an industry contact.

Hell, I organized a massive rally car race at SoCal that got in all 3 magazines at the time and we had more rally racers than most of the classes racing that Friday
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I used to race the Cox Turbo Scorpion, the RC10 (pre-long front arms) and them the JRX2. I have a pristeen RC10 World's car (the last of the aluminum tub versions, with the stealth tranny) and I'm here to tell you it's not competitive for one glaring reason. It's 1/2" narrower both front and rear than a current buggy. It drives very nicely, neutral and very easy to drive but it's just not fast enough through the turns.
Funny that somebody mentioned old school batteries and motors earlier. Remember, we used to run 7 cells back then. Jack Johnson won the 90' Nats' with a 10 turn and 6 cells and everybody changed to 6 cells and then it became the rule. 4wd with a 16 turn and 7 cells was as much power as you will get out of 6 cells with any motor on an off road track. They were a handful with those old tires.
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Frank I just read your great stories. I can remember in 97 and 98 the things that what go on in the pits in that area.
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