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Old 10-08-2013, 10:18 AM   #1
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Just wondering your thoughts on this. For the winter our local indoor track is running 1/8 e buggy with a max of 1,950kv motors on 3s lipos. I ordered a few Nano-tech 3S 5100s as well as two SMC 5100 3S. Will have both an 8ight-e 2.0 (RX8 gen 1 w/ T8 1900kv) and a MBX6 ECO (RX8 gen 2 w/ T8 1900kv) to use. I want everything to run well and not get too hot. What would be a good starting point for gearing? I have 12-18t pinions available.

The Losi as it sits has a 15 or 16t pinion on it and on 4S it is insane...perfect for the outdoor track, but way too much for the indoor.

I've forgotten so much since i've been out of RC it's crazy!

This is the track i'll be running on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlXTN...ature=youtu.be
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Old 10-08-2013, 10:33 AM   #2
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Hmm interesting with the 3s ruling.
Well i run a 4s lipo and 1900 Tekin and currently geared at 17T pinion for our medium indoor track that is high bite clay. Depending on layouts I can usually just turn down the throttle on the radio.

Maybe 12T to 15T for pinion gear to have on hand for trying.


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I think with the 3s on 1900 you will end up with 16-18 tooth.
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I'm seeing a little more & more of this class, here in SoCal we call it 1/8 SL or light...some of the guys are running 550 sc motors with 2 cell lipos...the cars are still super fast!
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I had my MBX6 running on 2 cell with a HW 4700, and the thing ripped... for 6 minutes... I mean, it drove so so good. But I would start to dump 6 in and a few features got kinda difficult. It would ultimately run for about 10 minutes. I was as fast as anyone with that car though. .4 slower than I ever ran in my nitro car, and as fast as I ever was in my truggy.

Ran the same car on 3s with a 550 2800 SCTE motor. But it was never as good as it was on 2 cell...


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I think with the 3s on 1900 you will end up with 16-18 tooth.
I think 16-18 is spot on for both cars, also... Leaning more towards 16...
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Just wondering your thoughts on this. For the winter our local indoor track is running 1/8 e buggy with a max of 1,950kv motors on 3s lipos. I ordered a few Nano-tech 3S 5100s as well as two SMC 5100 3S. Will have both an 8ight-e 2.0 (RX8 gen 1 w/ T8 1900kv) and a MBX6 ECO (RX8 gen 2 w/ T8 1900kv) to use. I want everything to run well and not get too hot. What would be a good starting point for gearing? I have 12-18t pinions available.

The Losi as it sits has a 15 or 16t pinion on it and on 4S it is insane...perfect for the outdoor track, but way too much for the indoor.

I've forgotten so much since i've been out of RC it's crazy!

This is the track i'll be running on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlXTN...ature=youtu.be

Most importantly the dimensions of your track will determine the recommended gearing. At my local indoor track (95' x 60') I run a Tekin 1600kv T8i motor on 4s with "theoretical top speed" of 32mph. My car is near impossible to beat I can use the whole throttle range everywhere and not worry about overshooting jumps or blowing corners. My buddy and I have dubbed it "Stock 1/8th scale" racing.

http://scriptasylum.com/rc_speed/top_speed.html
Use the web link above to calculate gearing/top speed

here are the parameters for my Hotbodies D812e
Front/Rear Differential Gear Ratio: 4.3:1
Transmission Gear Ratio: 1:1
Spur gear: 46T
pinion: 20T
total battery voltage: 14.8v (nominal voltage)
kv rating: 1600kv
tire diameter: 4.5 inches
MPH =32.1


This should get you close to my settings with a losi buggy on 3s
Front/Rear Differential Gear Ratio: 3.31:1
Transmission Gear Ratio: 1:1
Spur gear: 45T (stock losi plastic spur)
pinion: 17
total battery voltage: 11.1v (nominal voltage)
kv rating: 1900
tire diameter: 4.5 inches
MPH = 32.25
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I appreciate the ideas guys. I plan to get up there and test out different pinions and run times with the 3S lipos once the all come in.
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Nick is that the setup you ran at AMS on Friday night?
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