NEW TRAXXAS VEHICLE RELEASE
09-02-2013, 05:29 AM
#31
Meh, Ive owned and raced RC's on and off for 2 decades, and aside from my race buggies my Stampede 4x4 has pride of place in my collection.
Can't say this latest release does anything for me (though if it had a scale licensed body and a brushless), But its laughable that people think Traxxas is only for nubs, or that they should ditch a lucrative line and try and instead compete for the tiny race market.
I think my Stampede is about 3 years old, and its only just now had its first breakage, And I have smashed the living (((( out of it.
Can't say this latest release does anything for me (though if it had a scale licensed body and a brushless), But its laughable that people think Traxxas is only for nubs, or that they should ditch a lucrative line and try and instead compete for the tiny race market.
I think my Stampede is about 3 years old, and its only just now had its first breakage, And I have smashed the living (((( out of it.
Last edited by badaml; 09-03-2013 at 12:44 AM. Reason: Language
09-02-2013, 06:39 AM
#33
Not my cup of tea, but looks fun, especially for the newcomers into the RC world.
I love race inspired vehicles as much as the next guy, however, from a business standpoint, traxxas is genius and is killing every other rc company when it comes to making money.
Just remember, the 10% of us who love race class vehicles, do not keep a company in business. Take losi for example.. they have the Losi rtr/low quality rc's to make the money (high margin items) and then they have the TLR line to keep the racers happy.
I love race inspired vehicles as much as the next guy, however, from a business standpoint, traxxas is genius and is killing every other rc company when it comes to making money.
Just remember, the 10% of us who love race class vehicles, do not keep a company in business. Take losi for example.. they have the Losi rtr/low quality rc's to make the money (high margin items) and then they have the TLR line to keep the racers happy.
09-02-2013, 08:20 AM
#34
Tech Apprentice
another traxxas again........
i'm not haters, but i found it's really not worth with $300 for this......
still using plastic driveshasft instead of steel ones...., still using plastic chassis....., still using plastic shocks, and also still using alu pinion..... are that worth for $300??
no way......
you can get a pro and a VERY durable kit with other brands outside from this traxxas
i'm not haters, but i found it's really not worth with $300 for this......
still using plastic driveshasft instead of steel ones...., still using plastic chassis....., still using plastic shocks, and also still using alu pinion..... are that worth for $300??
no way......
you can get a pro and a VERY durable kit with other brands outside from this traxxas
Last edited by badaml; 09-03-2013 at 12:46 AM. Reason: language
09-02-2013, 09:20 AM
#35
BLAH BLAH BLAH
very constructive post
another........
i'm not haters, but i found it's really not worth with $300 for this......
still using plastic driveshasft instead of steel ones...., still using plastic chassis....., still using plastic shocks, and also still using alu pinion..... are that worth for $300??
no way......
you can get a pro and a VERY durable kit with other brands outside from this
i'm not haters, but i found it's really not worth with $300 for this......
still using plastic driveshasft instead of steel ones...., still using plastic chassis....., still using plastic shocks, and also still using alu pinion..... are that worth for $300??
no way......
you can get a pro and a VERY durable kit with other brands outside from this
Last edited by badaml; 09-03-2013 at 12:47 AM. Reason: quoted language
09-02-2013, 09:26 AM
#36
another again........
i'm not haters, but i found it's really not worth with $300 for this......
still using plastic driveshasft instead of steel ones...., still using plastic chassis....., still using plastic shocks, and also still using alu pinion..... are that worth for $300??
no way......
you can get a pro and a VERY durable kit with other brands outside from this traxx
i'm not haters, but i found it's really not worth with $300 for this......
still using plastic driveshasft instead of steel ones...., still using plastic chassis....., still using plastic shocks, and also still using alu pinion..... are that worth for $300??
no way......
you can get a pro and a VERY durable kit with other brands outside from this traxx
and the traxxas plastic argument has been here since the first T-maxx came out. Everyone complained that it was a 'plastic' truck....same complaints came with the revo and erevo.....plastics are the way to go for power to weight, not to mention the lower cost to the customer
To complain about a truck having plastic when you havent driven it is quite literally retarded. I have the truck and I havent broken it yet. I have larger tires on it with no drive problems/issues. And I mostly let a noo-b (a girl) drive it, and noob's tend to do things that I would never do.....
I dont make complaints about a new Associated truck's all plastic construction unless I DRIVE it first.....just how I was raised, lol.
Implying that plastic sucks, in this day and age, shows that the person complaining doesn't know anything about modern R/C....This truck probably has at least 30 totally different types of plastic in it....some for strength, some for flex, some for cost, etc....just because you cant get past the 'simple' design doesent mean that it wasnt built and designed by some smart engineers for a real purpose...Just sayin :-)
Last edited by badaml; 09-03-2013 at 12:47 AM.
09-02-2013, 10:20 AM
#37
When people complain about the price, it makes me curious about what other vehicles are out there for $300 or less that would be better than this one.
You can't compare a kit unless you also include everything it takes to complete it.
You can't compare a mini for obvious reasons.
What other 1/10 4x4 vehicle is available for less?
You can't compare a kit unless you also include everything it takes to complete it.
You can't compare a mini for obvious reasons.
What other 1/10 4x4 vehicle is available for less?
09-02-2013, 11:31 AM
#38
Says you.
One doesn't actually have to drive this to know it's a cheaply made toy grade RC. How many other Traxxas vehicles(rerelease kings)are identical in build? The complaints are valid.... without driving it. Your comment isn't though since you're insinuating that some kind of magic will be discovered by driving this all plastic wonder....... and no.... it doesn't have 30 different types of plastic. You act like this thing is some super engineered space craft from the future. It's a cheap plastic Traxxas.... with a build quality that is far from secret.
09-02-2013, 02:33 PM
#39
"Says you. One doesn't actually have to drive this to know it's a cheaply made toy grade RC."
Says me is right, because I know what I am talking about :-) Actually, one HAS to know something about the car to KNOW anything about it. I know about the car and about how and why it came about, thats all.....If they could run a 3500KV brushless system in it HARD for pack after pack after pack, then it could hardly be considered toy grade. Ive made mod 'fankensteins' of 'toy grade' rc cars (wal mart trucks and radio shack off road bikes) and have NEVER had one hold up to a brushless system without modification. This truck, (verified by Traxxas's testing it), can withstand their VXL Brushless system on large Mah 3s over and over and over and over and over with no drivetrain issues.
"How many other Traxxas vehicles(rerelease kings)are identical in build? The complaints are valid.... without driving it."
quite a few....it is the best way to make sure that consumers get reliable product and that Hobby Shops arent stuck with a bunch of extra parts on the shelf. An ES300 isnt an ES 300, its a Camry that has been changed to cater to a different clientele ..... There are examples in every successful company in almost every industry. The slash 4x4 platform is wildly successfull and reliable, which is why the Stampede 4x4 was created with it as a base platform. The Telluride being made under a Pede 4x4 platform isnt lazy, its just 'anti-stupid'.
"Your comment isn't though since you're insinuating that some kind of magic will be discovered by driving this all plastic wonder."
Nah, no magic, just engineered for the market that it was made for....the guy who REALLY wants a 4x4 slash and/or 4x4 Stampede ($430 ish), but can really AFFORD a 2wd slash ($240 ish). Getting a 4x4 that is reliable, doesent fall apart when modified, and isnt over priced ($299+$130 VXL upgrade=almost the price of a 4x4 stampede), AND when you do break it (or modify it) you arent running around town for parts, because ALL of the parts are brand new and no hobby shop has parts.....
Theres more to a manufacturers decision than just the quick, gut inspired opinion that immediately comes to your head...Consumers and Hobby shops aren't stupid and will not buy vehicles that are not a value. And there is ALOT that goes into creating products that can be popular, while not eating your shirt (from a manufacturing stand-point).
"...... and no.... it doesn't have 30 different types of plastic. You act like this thing is some super engineered space craft from the future. It's a cheap plastic Traxxas.... with a build quality that is far from secret."
Actually, it does have that many different types of plastic. And how would you know whether it was 'cheap' plastic? Can you give an example of 'expensive' plastic? And how much more expensive is 'expensive' plastic compared to 'cheap' plastic? :-)
I try to keep out generalizations, because they are mostly opinionated, and stick to facts.....just correcting some of your statements.
Somebody not liking a truck is awesome...Seriously.....I would hate to be in a place where every vehicle was exactly the same, or where EVERYBODY loves the SAME types of cars...but to call one car a piece of crap because it is attempting to cater to a customer who is not just like you, OR to call it a piece of crap based on NO information, isnt really productive....U dont like it, but it isnt a piece of crap...no one is asking you to buy it, certainly not me, WINK
One doesn't actually have to drive this to know it's a cheaply made toy grade RC."Says me is right, because I know what I am talking about :-) Actually, one HAS to know something about the car to KNOW anything about it. I know about the car and about how and why it came about, thats all.....If they could run a 3500KV brushless system in it HARD for pack after pack after pack, then it could hardly be considered toy grade. Ive made mod 'fankensteins' of 'toy grade' rc cars (wal mart trucks and radio shack off road bikes) and have NEVER had one hold up to a brushless system without modification. This truck, (verified by Traxxas's testing it), can withstand their VXL Brushless system on large Mah 3s over and over and over and over and over with no drivetrain issues.
"How many other Traxxas vehicles(rerelease kings)are identical in build? The complaints are valid.... without driving it."
quite a few....it is the best way to make sure that consumers get reliable product and that Hobby Shops arent stuck with a bunch of extra parts on the shelf. An ES300 isnt an ES 300, its a Camry that has been changed to cater to a different clientele ..... There are examples in every successful company in almost every industry. The slash 4x4 platform is wildly successfull and reliable, which is why the Stampede 4x4 was created with it as a base platform. The Telluride being made under a Pede 4x4 platform isnt lazy, its just 'anti-stupid'.
"Your comment isn't though since you're insinuating that some kind of magic will be discovered by driving this all plastic wonder."
Nah, no magic, just engineered for the market that it was made for....the guy who REALLY wants a 4x4 slash and/or 4x4 Stampede ($430 ish), but can really AFFORD a 2wd slash ($240 ish). Getting a 4x4 that is reliable, doesent fall apart when modified, and isnt over priced ($299+$130 VXL upgrade=almost the price of a 4x4 stampede), AND when you do break it (or modify it) you arent running around town for parts, because ALL of the parts are brand new and no hobby shop has parts.....
Theres more to a manufacturers decision than just the quick, gut inspired opinion that immediately comes to your head...Consumers and Hobby shops aren't stupid and will not buy vehicles that are not a value. And there is ALOT that goes into creating products that can be popular, while not eating your shirt (from a manufacturing stand-point).
"...... and no.... it doesn't have 30 different types of plastic. You act like this thing is some super engineered space craft from the future. It's a cheap plastic Traxxas.... with a build quality that is far from secret."
Actually, it does have that many different types of plastic. And how would you know whether it was 'cheap' plastic? Can you give an example of 'expensive' plastic? And how much more expensive is 'expensive' plastic compared to 'cheap' plastic? :-)
I try to keep out generalizations, because they are mostly opinionated, and stick to facts.....just correcting some of your statements.
Somebody not liking a truck is awesome...Seriously.....I would hate to be in a place where every vehicle was exactly the same, or where EVERYBODY loves the SAME types of cars...but to call one car a piece of crap because it is attempting to cater to a customer who is not just like you, OR to call it a piece of crap based on NO information, isnt really productive....U dont like it, but it isnt a piece of crap...no one is asking you to buy it, certainly not me, WINK
09-02-2013, 02:39 PM
#40
IMHO, traxxas is just a starter car and waste of money to invest in unless money isn't an issue for you, I almost spent 1000$ on my first rc which was a slash 2wd and didn't even have a great rc haha, I just built a fresh tekno sct for around 950$ rtr minus tx/rx, hmmm something sounds wrong here
09-02-2013, 02:51 PM
#41
When people complain about the price, it makes me curious about what other vehicles are out there for $300 or less that would be better than this one.
You can't compare a kit unless you also include everything it takes to complete it.
You can't compare a mini for obvious reasons.
What other 1/10 4x4 vehicle is available for less?
You can't compare a kit unless you also include everything it takes to complete it.
You can't compare a mini for obvious reasons.
What other 1/10 4x4 vehicle is available for less?
$299 is actually a good price....very affordable....and, of course, some shops will be selling it for less than that online (Maniacs is selling them for $299 WITH free shipping, for example).
09-02-2013, 03:34 PM
#42
I've noticed that nobody has stated any of the facts on the Telluride so I will chime in here.
The Telluride uses the stampede 4x4 chassis, but it has shorter arms that are new to the truck. They also took the 32p gears out and installed 48p gears. They removed the slipper clutch and installed a torque gear. They installed solid plastics links instead of turnbuckles.
The 48p gears seems like a very bad idea with the maount of power people will be installing in it.
The torque gear sounds like the old Kyosho gear that didn't work well.
Plastic links instead of turnbuckles? That's ridiculous.
I think it is a cool idea, but the price tag is too high for what you get and don't get.
The Telluride uses the stampede 4x4 chassis, but it has shorter arms that are new to the truck. They also took the 32p gears out and installed 48p gears. They removed the slipper clutch and installed a torque gear. They installed solid plastics links instead of turnbuckles.
The 48p gears seems like a very bad idea with the maount of power people will be installing in it.
The torque gear sounds like the old Kyosho gear that didn't work well.
Plastic links instead of turnbuckles? That's ridiculous.
I think it is a cool idea, but the price tag is too high for what you get and don't get.
09-02-2013, 03:45 PM
#43
Some of you Might get a kick out of this
There is an rc Drag Racing League in North Texas. A guy brought a stock Telluride with XO-1 wheels and tires on it and won in two bracket classes, lol
He had by far the most consistent dial-in by anyone there in any class.....he was screaming through the trap at a blisteringly stock 19.5 MPH,haha..... but still beating all kinds of modded funny cars! Dont you just LOVE bracket racing?? :-)
They said that with some of the fastest cars he was competing with, the Telluride was, like, over halfway down the track before the competitor was all green...lol :-)
Thought it was kinda funny
The drag racing league is here:
https://www.facebook.com/RCDRLNT
He had by far the most consistent dial-in by anyone there in any class.....he was screaming through the trap at a blisteringly stock 19.5 MPH,haha..... but still beating all kinds of modded funny cars! Dont you just LOVE bracket racing?? :-)
They said that with some of the fastest cars he was competing with, the Telluride was, like, over halfway down the track before the competitor was all green...lol :-)
Thought it was kinda funny
The drag racing league is here:
https://www.facebook.com/RCDRLNT
09-02-2013, 03:59 PM
#45
Sorry but the last good Traxxas was the SRT and TCP. Sure they aren't perfect but "Team Traxxas" atleast put effort in those design. What is sad is the A-Arms on this Telluride are the very same that were design for the SRT (back in 1994). This isn't a "Traxxas engineers at work". This is "Traxxas milking of a design with little effort for people that have no clue about other options in the Rc industry". Traxxas makes money off of noobs and keep using parts that are over 20years old in design.
