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Old 12-22-2014, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by brew99
Is that 32mm center-center, or ends of the eyelets as measured in the manual? I'm finding similar things with the 22T needing to be much longer than suggested, and will be doing the bell crank on the buggy here soon also
31.949 is where i ended up end to end
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Old 12-22-2014, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jpcopeland1
30MM rod length per Frank Root.
+1 this is exactly where i am at.

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Servo horn vertically centered.
my airtronics servo would not have a "verticle" setting as it was about half a tooth off in either direction. so given the choice always go towards the left side 'drivers side' (in usa anyway).

if your settings are where they should be (both steering turnbuckles equal length, servo horn centered properly, and steering rod length correct) your epa should be within 5 on left and right at max.

also i have noticed that if it seems like your servo doesnt want to center properly at the track, try replacing your servo mounts - the plastic does wear out if your removing them a bunch.
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:11 PM
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Any recommendations on what to adjust to get more low speed steering? Seemed to really be pushing on me last weekend. Just looking for some guide lines to improve this. Running MM setup, electronics in front of shorty pack. Stock buggy class.
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hoyt1967
Any recommendations on what to adjust to get more low speed steering? Seemed to really be pushing on me last weekend. Just looking for some guide lines to improve this. Running MM setup, electronics in front of shorty pack. Stock buggy class.
if you havent already.... the tlr bellcrank system. if you already have those, try alittle toe out in the front.
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Old 12-22-2014, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hoyt1967
Any recommendations on what to adjust to get more low speed steering? Seemed to really be pushing on me last weekend. Just looking for some guide lines to improve this. Running MM setup, electronics in front of shorty pack. Stock buggy class.
30 Wt front 1.5 pistons . Silver springs shock location 2 and middle on 1.0 arm. 3 mm outer link 2 mm inner camber link

27.5 wt rear white spring 1.6 piston. ..0 hole and inside hole on rear arm. Low mount ball stud on inner link and 2 mm on outer link in the D position. Speedo on battery tray . I run 17.5 car is dialed
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Old 12-22-2014, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake S
if you havent already.... the tlr bellcrank system. if you already have those, try alittle toe out in the front.
I have the bellcrank system installed.
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Old 12-22-2014, 06:38 PM
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Any recommendations on what to adjust to get more low speed steering? Seemed to really be pushing on me last weekend. Just looking for some guide lines to improve this. Running MM setup, electronics in front of shorty pack. Stock buggy class.
For low speed steering a noticeable effect is TOE OUT! I also notice lengthening the wheel base helped my low speed cornering too

A few other things to try for more steering
On power push problem try = limit droop in front, more anti squat in back, softer front spring

Off power push problem try = add some rear droop

I am typically running medium grip clay tracks
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Originally Posted by synap2012
For low speed steering a noticeable effect is TOE OUT! I also notice lengthening the wheel base helped my low speed cornering too

A few other things to try for more steering
On power push problem try = limit droop in front, more anti squat in back, softer front spring

Off power push problem try = add some rear droop

I am typically running medium grip clay tracks
Ok that is some good info. So as far as toe setting goes, how much is too much on toe out? And how much does a guy start with, 1/2 turn on each tie rod? Other than the low speed steering the car handled very well. Was a high grip track.
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Old 12-22-2014, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by hoyt1967
Ok that is some good info. So as far as toe setting goes, how much is too much on toe out? And how much does a guy start with, 1/2 turn on each tie rod? Other than the low speed steering the car handled very well. Was a high grip track.
1/2 turn is a good starting point. Careful not to do too much. Usually 1-2* is all you need.

I measured it out one time... about a year ago.
With 4 rib fronts, car set up at race weight, I was at 3/16 of an inch wider at the front of the tire than the rear. Digital protractor said it was a 2.3 degree average. This was the high and low measurement to account for the slop in the steering.

Happy hunting...
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Old 12-22-2014, 10:51 PM
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Finished up my kit, can't wait for the first drive!



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quick question... looking at my brass anti squat it seems like the trans doesnt "key in" like a pic i saw on wheeler's facebook of his in his sct... is that just because different anti squat? (im running 2-deg in mine - looks like 0-deg in his sct)

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Originally Posted by synap2012
For low speed steering a noticeable effect is TOE OUT! I also notice lengthening the wheel base helped my low speed cornering too

A few other things to try for more steering
On power push problem try = limit droop in front, more anti squat in back, softer front spring

Off power push problem try = add some rear droop

I am typically running medium grip clay tracks
What adjustment do you recommend do add more droop?
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Unscrew the shock rod end/eye (1-2 full turns) < To add droop... also don't forget to run a short camber link in the front to get more steering!
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What adjustment do you recommend do add more droop?
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Old 12-23-2014, 05:50 AM
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Thanks!
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Old 12-23-2014, 01:50 PM
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I slept on the -2.5mm chassis, out of stock ETA April 28th lol ... my bad
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