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Old 12-03-2014, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by hoyt1967
I'm really confused on the steering vs. spindle choices. So I'm running an exotec rack setup, would I be better off switching to the new bellcrank spindles? And what is the concern with choosing the right spindle? Is it loosing your lock to lock ability? As long as you run a 4mm spindle that goes lock to lock is that the key? Sorry, I'm just in left field on this.
You must use the spindle that comes with the bell cranks. It was redesigned for the 22SCT 2.0 and use of any other spindle will not get you full lock. I witnessed this first hand last night when we tried to put a set on my brothers 22SCT 1.0 and didn't use the correct spindles or caster blocks. Nowhere near full throw in either direction and he had very little steering. I asked him if he had used everything that came in the package and he said no. Went back and put all of the right stuff in, and presto. Full lock both directions. Also be aware that if you are putting this on an original 22, you need 22 2.0 caster blocks. I would switch to the bell cranks as my Exotek rack was pretty sloppy and the TLR version does not have this issue and was engineered by TLR themselves. Also there is debate as to whether the Exotek rack has the right geometry. For things like this I don't count on after-market companies to get it right.
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Originally Posted by jpcopeland1
You must use the spindle that comes with the bell cranks. It was redesigned for the 22SCT 2.0 and use of any other spindle will not get you full lock. I witnessed this first hand last night when we tried to put a set on my brothers 22SCT 1.0 and didn't use the correct spindles or caster blocks. Nowhere near full throw in either direction and he had very little steering. I asked him if he had used everything that came in the package and he said no. Went back and put all of the right stuff in, and presto. Full lock both directions. Also be aware that if you are putting this on an original 22, you need 22 2.0 caster blocks. I would switch to the bell cranks as my Exotek rack was pretty sloppy and the TLR version does not have this issue and was engineered by TLR themselves. Also there is debate as to whether the Exotek rack has the right geometry. For things like this I don't count on after-market companies to get it right.
Thanks, that helps alot.
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Originally Posted by urluzn
There the same as savox or futaba.
That doesn't seem quite right as I couldn't use my Savox servo with the Exotek bell cracks.
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Does anyone know who has the TLR brass rear pivot in stock? Thanks in advance!
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I think JP Richards runs Xpert servos. Could someone check with him?

Or Frank, how do you determine how much spacing to use? I figure it needs at least the 1mm shim.
You want the servo horn/ball stud centered in the opening of the right front bulkhead loop.
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Originally Posted by Frank Root
You want the servo horn/ball stud centered in the opening of the right front bulkhead loop.
Perfect, thank you Frank!
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Originally Posted by RedBMaster
That doesn't seem quite right as I couldn't use my Savox servo with the Exotek bell cracks.
Can I use a Savox with the new TLR bellcrank setup?
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Originally Posted by hoyt1967
Can I use a Savox with the new TLR bellcrank setup?
Jason Synder posted a video of the savox and the new bell cranks...so I would say yes....
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Originally Posted by hoyt1967
Can I use a Savox with the new TLR bellcrank setup?
Yes, the TLR bell cracks use normal servo spacing. You could use it with the Exotek bell cracks as well, but you'd need to buy their modified servo mounts. Which cost more than the whole TLR bell crack kit!

I put my Savox servo in my 22-4 and got the Xpert servo to go with the Exoteck bell cracks while I waited for the TLR ones. The TLR bell cranks use kit servo spacing, and Xpert servo spacing isn't listed in the manual. That is why I was asking. Hopefully that makes more sense!
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I have the xprt LP servo in mine. I used a .5mm spacer and the alum TLR servo horn.
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Originally Posted by hoyt1967
Can I use a Savox with the new TLR bellcrank setup?
Yes. My brother ended up using 2mm spacers but it works perfectly.
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Originally Posted by hoyt1967
Thanks, that helps alot.
Anytime.
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Thanks Frank! I'll check with PCH again.
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Originally Posted by hoyt1967
Can I use a Savox with the new TLR bellcrank setup?
Yes, I used a 1256 and it fits perfect.

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Great guys, thanks much for the info. I did order a new set to replace my exotec rack. So my only other concern, the new TLR bellcrank kit, is it plastic?? I seem to break alot of things, so will I need spare bellcranks?
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I run a gear diff on carpet and I've settled on 5k. 7k I don't get the rotation I like and 3k made my car kinda squirlly on power coming out of corners. Also if your track allow pinpoints use them they are the only tire to use trust me.
Tires is slicks that all we can use. jconcepts
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