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Old 11-12-2014, 08:21 AM
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That's what I'd try.

Also, you can try different hole sizes and numbers of holes in the pistons.....but there WILL be a combination that you should consider 'improved'....however you'll probably also have several that are worse than where you started......lots of trial and error, batteries, and oil will be required, but I think it will pay off for you if you have not already been through this exercise.

Unfortunately, most of us are not on carpet, so when it comes down to really helping with exact answers...I can't help.

But, here's what I'd try, one at a time to see which ones get you better with the least amount of work first.....

1) ride height & springs
2) Shock position
3) camber angle and camber link positions
4) castor blocks / kickup angle
5) oil and pistons

I think you will find some of these make a bigger difference than others...but there are a million different things you could do....the good news is that you know what problem you are trying to solve......calming down the front end for more aggressive driving, right?
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Old 11-12-2014, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by skeasor
Anyone ever pop a rear ball stud off of the shock tower? I landed flat off of one jump but didn't think it was too serious but the ball stud popped right out of the hole damaging the threads on the shock tower so I had to move the ball studs in the rear inward since the hole was damaged.
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I did the same thing, on warmup laps before the main. I put a new ball stud in the other hole for that race, but when I had time later I unscrewed the rest of the broken off piece downwards and out of the tower plate. Mine had just enough threads hanging out the bottom so I could grab it and unscrew it out. I replaced all ball stubs with Titanium ones after that.
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by janisdaubergs
regarding oil, should i go harder than so weight transfer would be slower?
Check out, http://www.petitrc.com/setup/losi/SetupSheetsLosiTwentyTwo2.0.html

There have a few carpet setups there in the bottom section.
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:04 AM
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Front buggy kyosho big bore gold SPRINGS are similar to what low frequency color TLR front buggy SPRINGS??
I'm using James Raschko stock rear motor setup from Surf City track.
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:06 AM
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Seems like most are using silver lf springs which are close but still a softer setup
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Old 11-12-2014, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by liftmys10
Front buggy kyosho big bore gold SPRINGS are similar to what low frequency color TLR front buggy SPRINGS??
I'm using James Raschko stock rear motor setup from Surf City track.
There aren't any, which is why they are using the Kyosho Gold.
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Old 11-12-2014, 10:37 AM
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Are these the Gold springs that everyone is running?
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Old 11-12-2014, 10:49 AM
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Here goes a good question?Why all of a sudden do 90%of the newer setups seem so stiff up front? IMO the kyosho gold spring is pretty stiff.
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Old 11-12-2014, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by rob martin
Here goes a good question?Why all of a sudden do 90%of the newer setups seem so stiff up front? IMO the kyosho gold spring is pretty stiff.
Ryan came in with some fresh eyes, and tuned on the car to get it comfortable to him. He ended up liking the front end quite a bit stiffer than we had been running it, and some of the other team guys have found this to be a good (improved) balance for them.
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Old 11-12-2014, 11:17 AM
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I believe so... pretty expensive for a pair of springs... for the same price you can get the entire tlr LF spring set.
Which is why I'm trying to find out which tlr spring is similar to the kyosho
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Old 11-12-2014, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by liftmys10
I believe so... pretty expensive for a pair of springs... for the same price you can get the entire tlr LF spring set.
Which is why I'm trying to find out which tlr spring is similar to the kyosho

I am running the TLR green front spring (part # TLR5175) on the front of my 22 2.0 and 22-4. It is 0.3 lb stiffer than the TLR silver and have been working great for me when I want a little more support in the front end. I've even ran the Blue front spring on my 22-4 when running the inside whole on the arm.

http://www.tlracing.com/Products/Def...ProdID=TLR5175
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Old 11-12-2014, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Bing
I am running the TLR green front spring (part # TLR5175) on the front of my 22 2.0....
The LF silver is close (softer) to the Kyo gold, chris mentioned something I noticed also the green HF is stiffer than LF silver.. not sure how that differs from the Kyo gold.
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Originally Posted by liftmys10
I believe so... pretty expensive for a pair of springs... for the same price you can get the entire tlr LF spring set.
Which is why I'm trying to find out which tlr spring is similar to the kyosho
TLR green spring for the original 22 appear to be a close match. The actual rate on the Kyo's is 3.34. However, the theoretical rate on the TLR green, std springs is 3.50 while the TLR silver, std springs are listed at 3.20. So the Kyo measured rate is half way between the two TLR spring's theoretical rate. It's a guess either way until someone has a chance to measure them.

Many guys are going with the TLR silver, LF springs in the front and a lighter spring in the rear. For instance I'm running white, LF springs in the rear.
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Originally Posted by RedBMaster
TLR green spring for the original 22 appear to be a close match. The actual rate on the Kyo's is 3.34. However, the theoretical rate on the TLR green, std springs is 3.50 while the TLR silver, std springs are listed at 3.20. So the Kyo measured rate is half way between the two TLR spring's theoretical rate. It's a guess either way until someone has a chance to measure them.
yeah the original 22 1.0 green spring is close. then the 22 1.0 blue spring is close to what maifield is running on his 22-4 - slightly stiffer as well...which for me felt really good on my 22-4 even on a tight indoor track. i have noticed that tlr spring rates "feel" about .15-.2 softer then listed rates in comparison to other brands as well of the same theoretical numbers.

http://www.amain.com/Team-Losi-Racin...TLR-22/p193824

http://www.amain.com/Team-Losi-Racin...TLR-22/p193825
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Another cheaper alternative to the kyosho gold springs would be the "Batch 3" Avid Red front spring. It is rated at 3.33lb.

http://www.amain.com/Avid-RC-12mm-Ba...33lb-2/p261351
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