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Old 10-23-2014, 10:03 AM
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crap, that chassis looks nice......anyone running it in RM? What mods to make it work? The bell cranks have me like the 22 more and more. Kinda wonder if this chassis will fully tip the scales.
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Bivens
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To make the MM conversion...do the SCT1.0 MM parts do it? (I currently have those in a bag while I run my old truck as RM...)
You'll still need the Buggy rear tower and wing mounts.

Originally Posted by Eggyolkeo
Been experimenting with my carpet setup and tried a battery-way-forward config. Seemed to work well for the jumps but not well for steering.
Steering comes from weight transfer as much as static weight. The more static weight you have on the front, the less that can transfer to the front. Keep that in mind.

Originally Posted by 135mikefox
I usually MF tlr. But, I would like to thank frank and the boys for the -2.5 chassis
Thought you'd like that - check out the details:

Features
• 2.5mm shorter than the stock 22 and 22 2.0 Chassis for improved handling characteristics.
• Additional milled pockets help the -2.5mm chassis to be lighter than the stock 22 2.0 chassis, and is 15-17g lighter.
• Milled 2.5mm thick 7075-T6 Aluminum
• Hard Anodized for strength and outstanding wear characteristics
• A direct replacement fit that will not require any other parts.
• Work with both the rear-motor and mid-motor 22 2.0 configurations.

Overview
• The TLR Race Team has done extensive testing over the summer running multiple different lengths of prototype chassis to determine which offers the best performance for the 22 2.0. Needless to say, the chassis testing resulted in optimal performance from the -2.5mm length prototype, and we have now brought this to market.

The -2.5mm wheelbase helps the 22 2.0 enter the turn a little quicker, rotate quicker and have better drive off the turn, which really improves the overall balance and feel especially in mid-motor. This setup improvement helped Dakotah Phend win the 2014 ROAR Nationals with Ryan Maifield winning A3 for a TLR A-Main Sweep.

The chassis also keeps the competitive stock racers in mind, having additional pockets milled throughout to lighten the chassis by 15-17g each. This lighter chassis makes it even easier to get the 22 2.0 down to the ROAR minimum weight, but has shown no signs of being less durable than the stock chassis.

The -2.5mm chassis is a direct fit part that will replace the stock 22 and 22 2.0 chassis with no other modifications required.


Originally Posted by Matt M.
so is the chassis a mm deal only??? or is this a rear motor option also??
Works great on both. Most of the team is testing MM, but we've had our stock guru James Raschko running it on the RM buggy with great results also.

Originally Posted by skeasor
hmmm...good question. It doesn't specify RM or MM on the website though it looks like it's milled out a little differently.
Works great for both.

Originally Posted by gticlay
Exciting stuff Ryan! Is it a little thinner aluminum plate or is the chassis milled out more, or both? Also, will we need to dremel the side rails or are they re positioned somehow? I really like my -3mm chassis from Stiky Liks but it will be difficult to hold back from trying this one too...
Same thickness, 2.5mm 7075-T6 Alumimum plate. You can dremel the side rail a little on the left to make it easier to get the gear cover off, but it is definitely not required.
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Originally Posted by Wildcat1971
crap, that chassis looks nice......anyone running it in RM? What mods to make it work? The bell cranks have me like the 22 more and more. Kinda wonder if this chassis will fully tip the scales.
Check my post above, it'll answer your questions.
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:24 AM
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guess its time to get rid of the exotek v2 steering and the bmax battery block. And upgrade to the new tlr -2.5 chassis, new tlr battery tray and tlr bell cranks
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Originally Posted by Frank Root
Check my post above, it'll answer your questions.
Yep. One question which will be on the minds of the RM drivers. Any issues running the esc on the chassis with this new chassis. -2.5mm, should not really be an issue, just depending and where it was removed. I really like the feel of Rm with the esc on the chassis behind the battery. Once i can get the new 22sct esc mount, I plant to put that in the 2.0 buggy. I know it really depends on the sc you use and blah blah. I use an orion is is not small, not real large. I am sure with the tekin rs, everything is fine for sure, lol. It is tiny.
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Originally Posted by Wildcat1971
Yep. One question which will be on the minds of the RM drivers. Any issues running the esc on the chassis with this new chassis. -2.5mm, should not really be an issue, just depending and where it was removed. I really like the feel of Rm with the esc on the chassis behind the battery. Once i can get the new 22sct esc mount, I plant to put that in the 2.0 buggy. I know it really depends on the sc you use and blah blah. I use an orion is is not small, not real large. I am sure with the tekin rs, everything is fine for sure, lol. It is tiny.
The battery will just be closer to the servo by 2.5mm, not the ESC end.
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Originally Posted by Frank Root
The battery will just be closer to the servo by 2.5mm, not the ESC end.
great, I have a LP servo, so no issues.
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Awesome work again TLR team!! Can't wait to try it out!!
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[QUOTE=Eggyolkeo;13612493]Been experimenting with my carpet setup and tried a battery-way-forward config. Seemed to work well for the jumps but not well for steering.
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Depends on where you are after steering but it might be worth trying to mount the rear shocks on the front of rear tower and wishbone.

You need to space the shock forward on the tower and remove around 5mm of material from the wishbone, to try and keep the shock as vertical as possibly but it made a huge improvement to power on steering on astroturf.
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send me one before the spektrum race...lol
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You'll still need the Buggy rear tower and wing mounts.
thanks as always Frank...it turns out I was really meaning to post that MM question in the SCT 2.0 thread....ooops....

I've already got a RM and a MM 22 buggy...and have run both quite a bit...RM when the traction is low...but last night with the 0-hole mod and the bellcranks....the MM car was awesome...way better than before...for me.

I can't wait to try that chassis though....My RM car is actually based on a RTR 22 roller that I bought for $75 and put all 2.0 parts on...even milled the servo pocket in the chassis on it...looks funny to smoke everyone with an RTR silver chassis though....
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i just bought a tlr 22 1.0. I assume that the 2.0 parts will fit it. is it really worth it to buy the aluminum spindles ? or the castor blocks/ carriers?
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no, that alum stuff is not useful
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Old 10-23-2014, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Errokk
What was the steering issue you came across? Seems as if you'd have more then enough...
Pushing (understeering) into corners off throttle. Thanks for everyone's input, currently building up a another buggy to run carpet and might relegate this to dirt!
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What servos are recommended for Short Course? I'm running the Spektrum S6040 in my 22 2.0 buggy. Also what is the difference between my old Spektrum SR3100 receiver and the newer Spektrum SR410 that comes with the DX4R Pro????
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