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Old 10-13-2014, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Ultraspeed84
I got a good feeling there may be a 3.0 coming out soon...
yea, they should have called the 2.0 a 1.5 beta so the next version would be a 2.0 just kidding.
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Old 10-13-2014, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by skeasor
yea, they should have called the 2.0 a 1.5 beta so the next version would be a 2.0 just kidding.
Or they coulda called it Losi 22 2.0 just kidding
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Originally Posted by Ultraspeed84
I got a good feeling there may be a 3.0 coming out soon...
I hope there isn't for a while I just sold my Rb6 and bought 2-2.0 and a 22-4.
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Originally Posted by Gitsum
I hope there isn't for a while I just sold my Rb6 and bought 2-2.0 and a 22-4.
Even if they do the 22 2.0 is a good car.

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It may not happen but with the new bell cranks,new chassis,drilled rear tower I just feel there will be a 3.0 with these included and maybe new front and rear arms. I do wish losi would include adjustable hinge pin plates where you can change track width and roll center.
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Originally Posted by Ultraspeed84
It may not happen but with the new bell cranks,new chassis,drilled rear tower I just feel there will be a 3.0 with these included and maybe new front and rear arms. I do wish losi would include adjustable hinge pin plates where you can change track width and roll center.
X2 that would be a terrific option. I'm sure you will see a new version down the pipe but I feel most of us will already be running the upgrades that would be included so bot a huge deal to me.
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Originally Posted by Ultraspeed84
It may not happen but with the new bell cranks,new chassis,drilled rear tower I just feel there will be a 3.0 with these included and maybe new front and rear arms. I do wish losi would include adjustable hinge pin plates where you can change track width and roll center.
Agreed. Which is why I said the current 2.0 should've been a beta version. Its still a good car but I think tlr learned a lot since releasing the 2.0.
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Who said they are running a shorter chassis?
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Originally Posted by skeasor
Agreed. Which is why I said the current 2.0 should've been a beta version. Its still a good car but I think tlr learned a lot since releasing the 2.0.
All RC cars in beta. lo. They did a LOT of upgrades on the 2.0. I am not sure a set of bell cranks and new chassis would make a 3.0. Look at all the changes to the sct22 2.0. Crap about half the truck is different. maybe next year, they win the worlds and make a "Worlds Edition" car
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Old 10-13-2014, 06:42 PM
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TLR makes better money selling Parts and upgrades. Even if they did announce a new car it would be a year plus before you even see it. Its only you indoor guys that want the shorter chassis, but you can already get them through the aftermarket>
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I am not even sure people want the -3 with RM. Like some of the brass weights, this may be a MM only thing.
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Old 10-13-2014, 07:07 PM
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A few questions...about these 3 new shiny bellcrank kits that just arrived....

1 - with the bellcrank kits I got...they did not come with turnbuckles...and I understand that I need to call horizon support once Frank lets us know the turnbuckles are in stock for shipping...got it....so, this DOES mean that I should be running the ball cups that were "offset" lower and were packaged in the bag with the steering knuckles, right??

2a - Those steering knuckles that came in the bellcrank kit were labeled SC2 inside the steering arm.....and they look to be similar to 2.0 knuckles with a shorter length out to the ball on the steering arm.....Am I supposed to run those with the bellcrank setup on the buggy AND the SCT or just on the SCT, or just the buggy? there was no mention of the steering knuckles or offset ball cups on the instruction sheet.

2b - With the bellcrank setup on a buggy....with stock 2.0 arms and knuckles, and a Futaba RX/TX....I'm barely getting near lock with EPA's both at 120%....the shorter arm length on the bellcrank-packaged SC2 knuckles would fix this for sure as it would generate more steering angle with the same lateral throw on the tie-rods....which also leads me to think I should be running these new knuckles...even on a buggy...right?

3 - Now, for the turnbuckles and ball cups....in the meantime while I run the stock ball cups waiting on the 50mmx3.5mm ones....what impact will stock ball cups have on the "feel" of the car compared to the offset ones that seem to be designed for the bellcrank setup?
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Originally Posted by Bivens
A few questions...about these 3 new shiny bellcrank kits that just arrived....

1 - with the bellcrank kits I got...they did not come with turnbuckles...and I understand that I need to call horizon support once Frank lets us know the turnbuckles are in stock for shipping...got it....so, this DOES mean that I should be running the ball cups that were "offset" lower and were packaged in the bag with the steering knuckles, right??

2a - Those steering knuckles that came in the bellcrank kit were labeled SC2 inside the steering arm.....and they look to be similar to 2.0 knuckles with a shorter length out to the ball on the steering arm.....Am I supposed to run those with the bellcrank setup on the buggy AND the SCT or just on the SCT, or just the buggy? there was no mention of the steering knuckles or offset ball cups on the instruction sheet.

2b - With the bellcrank setup on a buggy....with stock 2.0 arms and knuckles, and a Futaba RX/TX....I'm barely getting near lock with EPA's both at 120%....the shorter arm length on the bellcrank-packaged SC2 knuckles would fix this for sure as it would generate more steering angle with the same lateral throw on the tie-rods....which also leads me to think I should be running these new knuckles...even on a buggy...right?

3 - Now, for the turnbuckles and ball cups....in the meantime while I run the stock ball cups waiting on the 50mmx3.5mm ones....what impact will stock ball cups have on the "feel" of the car compared to the offset ones that seem to be designed for the bellcrank setup?
1, 2a, 2b, Basically, run everything in the bell crank bag for buggy. You'll just need the HD turnbuckles and 2 HD ball cups (for attachment to the spindles, offset ball cups attach to the cranks).

Since I see you do some airplane stuff, think of the length of the spindle arm (rearward viewing from top of spindle) as the control horn length. Longer, less throw, shorter more throw for the same amount of servo travel. Trail is the distance the steering link ball attachment point on the spindle moves left/right in relation to its rotation point around the kingpin (from top view) However, it does affect the geometry since there are more than 1 basic movement in the steering process.

Hopefully that makes sense...

Can't answer 3, sorry.

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Old 10-13-2014, 07:54 PM
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#3 is possible binding issue. they said they ran them like that for a while in testing until the offset cups were made.
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Old 10-13-2014, 08:21 PM
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I just went out and bought Titanium Lunsford 3.5x55 turnbuckle for $15 were at my door in days!
They went together perfect . Both my MM and RM cars are done still need to do the truck just not sure if I use the whole kit for the 22T .? I remember some talk about No?!?
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