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Old 05-09-2014, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew Gray
Looks like TLR officially released their bell crank steering:

http://www.tlracing.com/Search/Defau...=LatestRelease
It says due mid august...
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Old 05-09-2014, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by miles514
It says due mid august...
Officially announced is probably more accurate. We are working hard to get it out as soon as possible.
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:13 PM
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Meh... I will still try them in august
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank Root
Someone had a keen eye



Yes, the Bell Crank Steering system requires new bell cranks to get the revised ackermann needed and to ensure everyone can get full travel form their servos. The TLR system also requires no modifications, and the servo will mount in its designed/original location with the correct shimming and all.

The good news is, we learned a lot about some of the order quantities from the 2.0 parts, and I feel we should be very well prepared to have enough on hand for the bell crank system and support parts.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

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Old 05-09-2014, 10:03 PM
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frank,
Couple questions with the bellcranks.
1. Is this advantageous for both mid motor and rear motor?
2. Will the caster blocks still work and what would you notice going from the 5 degree to 0 degree blocks with the bellcrank system?
3. Will the new spindles be a little less fragile then the current ones and will we see some aluminum options in the future?
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Old 05-10-2014, 12:23 AM
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Got mine ready, going to the track rigth now
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:37 AM
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Yeah I had the same question regarding the new bellcranks. I only run rear motor and when I initially converted my 22 to 2.0 parts I lost alot of my aggressive low speed steering. Thanks to setup tips from Ryan Dunford, I was able to find a setup to get the steering back without losing the new extra rear traction. In the write up, it says the new cranks will mellow steering off center, but increase it towards the end of the travel at low speed. Low speed steering is what I want and if that's the case, I will definitely buy these cranks for all my 22 platform vehicles!
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yes, they help with mid and rear motor...

i have the home made parts on my RM, MM and SCT...i did the sct last weekend, it was amazing how much more it turned.....


i will be ordering 3 of these for my vehicles.....
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Old 05-10-2014, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by dbracn
frank,
Couple questions with the bellcranks.
1. Is this advantageous for both mid motor and rear motor?
2. Will the caster blocks still work and what would you notice going from the 5 degree to 0 degree blocks with the bellcrank system?
3. Will the new spindles be a little less fragile then the current ones and will we see some aluminum options in the future?
1. It is a tuning option, like most things. It is pretty much unanimous throughout the team that the bell cranks are preferred in MM buggy, and RM/MM SCT and Truck. I sometimes prefer the rack in RM buggy, but Dustin and Dakotah prefer the bell cranks.
2. Yes, the only new part outside of the steering system itself is the spindle, which bolts right onto the 2.0 caster blocks. The effect of changing caster is not altered by using bell cranks.
3. We have modified the 22 2.0 stock spindles and the 22 2.0 bell crank spindles which should improve the durability of both items.

Originally Posted by Jack Bonhomme
Yeah I had the same question regarding the new bellcranks. I only run rear motor and when I initially converted my 22 to 2.0 parts I lost alot of my aggressive low speed steering. Thanks to setup tips from Ryan Dunford, I was able to find a setup to get the steering back without losing the new extra rear traction. In the write up, it says the new cranks will mellow steering off center, but increase it towards the end of the travel at low speed. Low speed steering is what I want and if that's the case, I will definitely buy these cranks for all my 22 platform vehicles!
Sounds the like bell cranks should help you find the balance you are looking for.
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I also installed the Exotek V2 bellcranks and ran them for the first time last night. I have been running the Kyosho bellcranks since just after the mod became known. The Exotek are hands down better! Simple, bolt in kit. At $44.95 for aluminum, I think they are a great value. Not to mention Exotek got them across country in 2 days!
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The whole TLR cranks vs Exotek comes down to this.

- TLR were team tested
- Exoteks are alum and stronger...how the TLR plastic may be strong enough, time will tell
- Exoteks available now, TLR in 3 months or so.
- The setup sheets from TLR will probably reference their own bell cranks in setups



Hmm, what to do. I think I will wait and see for now. I prefer OEM products where it makes sense. And I kinda hope the "new" spindles are at least as strong as the 1.0 spindles were. The 2.0 spindles were not "weak", but weaker than the 1.0, my kid has been stress testing both, lol. And the 1.0 spindles last about 10 times as long. But hey, she has broken 3 axles, lol. Silly pipes
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Need some help with tire selection. New to 1/10 2wd buggy. When selecting tires for indoor high bite clay. If a supersoft rear works best(whatever brand) typically what compound of front tire is used.
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Originally Posted by wvrcracer
Need some help with tire selection. New to 1/10 2wd buggy. When selecting tires for indoor high bite clay. If a supersoft rear works best(whatever brand) typically what compound of front tire is used.
Running indoors, the front compound is almost always the same as the rear.
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Originally Posted by Tombo
I also installed the Exotek V2 bellcranks and ran them for the first time last night. I have been running the Kyosho bellcranks since just after the mod became known. The Exotek are hands down better! Simple, bolt in kit. At $44.95 for aluminum, I think they are a great value. Not to mention Exotek got them across country in 2 days!
good to hear. i just installed mine and was super easy and no cutting up parts cant wait to try it
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Can anyone confirm wether the tlr or exotek bellcranks are a drop in fit with the Savox 1257 servo?
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