66LikesHot Bodies D413 1/10 4WD Buggy
06-18-2014, 10:58 AM
#3182
Just curious if you have tried playing with camber and toe out to alter steering. If you could offer more details everyone on this thread is very helpful. Let us know foam, tires, tire compound, shock rebound, emulsion, piston size, etc.. Also you may want to check how tight your sway bars are. Some guys really torque them down resulting in strange behavior.
06-18-2014, 11:20 AM
#3184
Also, which of my setups are you running? You will want the champs one. Also go to 1.5mm instead of 2mm under the front inside camber links for more steering.
06-18-2014, 11:58 AM
#3186
06-18-2014, 01:28 PM
#3187
Also, if removing the front sway bar had no change whatsoever on your cars handling something is going on.
Last edited by AlderBoy; 06-18-2014 at 11:51 PM.
06-18-2014, 01:29 PM
#3188
06-18-2014, 01:30 PM
#3189
06-19-2014, 07:28 AM
#3192
So between the champs setup and the set up a month earlier the only different is he changed up the front shock oil from 35 to 37.5 and took out the front sway bar... I feel like my car needs more than just 1 weight lighter in the front and a sway bar change. The car feels very skatey in the rear and it just doesn't steer. We have a technical spot right befor the straight then a 180* turn to get onto the front straight and has to be taken slow. If I take it slow I end up pushing really wide and further than half the track width. The car is just really unstabilized throughout the course tho! UGH! Im going tonite to get some more work on it and well see what happens I guess.
06-19-2014, 08:18 AM
#3193
So between the champs setup and the set up a month earlier the only different is he changed up the front shock oil from 35 to 37.5 and took out the front sway bar... I feel like my car needs more than just 1 weight lighter in the front and a sway bar change. The car feels very skatey in the rear and it just doesn't steer. We have a technical spot right befor the straight then a 180* turn to get onto the front straight and has to be taken slow. If I take it slow I end up pushing really wide and further than half the track width. The car is just really unstabilized throughout the course tho! UGH! Im going tonite to get some more work on it and well see what happens I guess.
I have no idea if your track is a similar layout or has the same type of surface and traction. I also have no idea what your ESC/Radio setup is. Folks have used my setup at other tracks and said it worked well for them, but that doesn't mean it is good for your track without track specific tweaks.
You say that if you go slow you push very wide. Are you on power at all when you are going slow or are you letting off and rolling through the tight section off power? I would be glad to help more, but if you don't match my setup exactly (minus electronics) I don't have a good starting point to help make your car work for you.
06-19-2014, 08:35 AM
#3194
Those are not the only changes, look carefully. The front and rear inside camber link spacers, wing, shock oil and tire foams changed. All of those changes made a big difference for our new layout.
I have no idea if your track is a similar layout or has the same type of surface and traction. I also have no idea what your ESC/Radio setup is. Folks have used my setup at other tracks and said it worked well for them, but that doesn't mean it is good for your track without track specific tweaks.
You say that if you go slow you push very wide. Are you on power at all when you are going slow or are you letting off and rolling through the tight section off power? I would be glad to help more, but if you don't match my setup exactly (minus electronics) I don't have a good starting point to help make your car work for you.
I have no idea if your track is a similar layout or has the same type of surface and traction. I also have no idea what your ESC/Radio setup is. Folks have used my setup at other tracks and said it worked well for them, but that doesn't mean it is good for your track without track specific tweaks.
You say that if you go slow you push very wide. Are you on power at all when you are going slow or are you letting off and rolling through the tight section off power? I would be glad to help more, but if you don't match my setup exactly (minus electronics) I don't have a good starting point to help make your car work for you.
06-19-2014, 08:56 AM
#3195
Tech Adept
@carbon, coming of the straight into the chicane, you have to break har and early and get back on power and accelerate through the chicane, llift off just a little doing the 180
im running Alderboy's champs setup, except i run front sway bar (for as long as it will stay on grrrrr) and my bell crank connector bar is backwards on my buggy compared to Alderboys
to get the low lap times you have to stay super close to the apexes, pretty much drive the same line as 2wd 17.5/mod, the only time you can go wide is between the table tops where staying close to the wall and cutting in onto the second table top sets you up better for coming on to the straight
second we all drive differently, i try to be smooth, some are very agressive on the throttle where ever they can, and those two driving styles requires different setup
here's my run from last night (dark orange/black) TQ...best 5 laps sub 18's yay have been working hard on that ;-) still have to shave off 2 secs to get 18 laps
@Norcal D413 racers i can fix stripped spur if needed
im running Alderboy's champs setup, except i run front sway bar (for as long as it will stay on grrrrr) and my bell crank connector bar is backwards on my buggy compared to Alderboys
to get the low lap times you have to stay super close to the apexes, pretty much drive the same line as 2wd 17.5/mod, the only time you can go wide is between the table tops where staying close to the wall and cutting in onto the second table top sets you up better for coming on to the straight
second we all drive differently, i try to be smooth, some are very agressive on the throttle where ever they can, and those two driving styles requires different setup
here's my run from last night (dark orange/black) TQ...best 5 laps sub 18's yay have been working hard on that ;-) still have to shave off 2 secs to get 18 laps
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@Norcal D413 racers i can fix stripped spur if needed