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Old 03-25-2014, 03:20 PM
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Ty list's xgear springs on his set-up sheets, are those HPI / HB or other?
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Old 03-25-2014, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mopar
Ty list's xgear springs on his set-up sheets, are those HPI / HB or other?
X-Gear springs are the type of spring made my Kyosho.
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So are you going to seal the carbon fiber edges on this car with CA, like the chassis and shock towers? Is this even necessary anymore? This will be my first car with CF in a while so was wondering what most people recommend. All the other cars have been plastic and aluminum.
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So are you going to seal the carbon fiber edges on this car with CA, like the chassis and shock towers? Is this even necessary anymore? This will be my first car with CF in a while so was wondering what most people recommend. All the other cars have been plastic and aluminum.
I didn't bother CA'ing the edges of any of the carbon parts. the only prep I did was to chamfer the chassis lower edges with a dremel.
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Originally Posted by T. Deguzman
I didn't bother CA'ing the edges of any of the carbon parts. the only prep I did was to chamfer the chassis lower edges with a dremel.
320 wet sand paper does a great job of rounding and smoothing.I would still recommend using c.a on any chassis. Then again I am an old on road guy.:rolleyes
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I never sealed my CF parts even in the late 80's early 90's and with a nice sanding they were always fine. Can't wait till y'all try it out. I can't really afford to change wheelers right now but am DYING to try this car. I suspect I'd stay with it for a long time like I did with my RC10.
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Torrance,

On a medium bite clay track would you still go with 10/100/10 or 15/100/3 in the diffs? Perhaps something else?
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Torrance,

On a medium bite clay track would you still go with 10/100/10 or 15/100/3 in the diffs? Perhaps something else?
15/100/3.

I usually leave the F/R alone the go between 60-100-300 in the center. I have 100 most of the time but if the conditions are loose I go 60. If there's a huge quad I have trouble clearing then I go 300.
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Originally Posted by Autocratic
Originally Posted by Mopar
Ty list's xgear springs on his set-up sheets, are those HPI / HB or other?
X-Gear springs are the type of spring made my Kyosho.
Will Hot Bodies be making a spring set for a reasonable cost that Ty will start using? $22/pair of springs is one of the reasons I sent my ZX-5 FS2 SP down the road. I see that the spring pairs for the D4 are $7-$9, much more reasonable.

edit: partially answered my own question from the Hot Bodies UK website -
#113059 - 1/10 BUGGY FRONT SPRING 52.3 G/MM (GREEN)
#113060 - 1/10 BUGGY FRONT SPRING 54.4 G/MM (WHITE)
#113061 - 1/10 BUGGY FRONT SPRING 56.7 G/MM (BLUE)
#113062 - 1/10 BUGGY FRONT SPRING 59.1 G/MM (YELLOW)
#113063 - 1/10 BUGGY FRONT SPRING 61.8 G/MM (GOLD) (Standard)
#113064 - 1/10 BUGGY FRONT SPRING 64.8 G/MM (RED)

#113065 - 1/10 BUGGY REAR SPRING 32.9 G/MM (GREEN)
#113066 - 1/10 BUGGY REAR SPRING 34.0 G/MM (WHITE)
#113067 - 1/10 BUGGY REAR SPRING 35.2 G/MM (BLUE)
#113068 - 1/10 BUGGY REAR SPRING 36.4 G/MM (YELLOW) (Standard)
#113069 - 1/10 BUGGY REAR SPRING 37.8 G/MM (GOLD)
#113070 - 1/10 BUGGY REAR SPRING 39.2 G/MM (RED)

edit 2: Ty was running Kyosho XGear orange/yellow for ROAR nats, IFMAR worlds, and the Cactus Classic. I can't find an actual rating for Kyosho Super Hard/Orange fronts, but Kyosho Hard/Yellow fronts are 75g/mm which is way heavier than the heaviest front HB spring. Kyosho Hard/Yellow rears are 47g/mm, which also heavier than all the HB springs...

For the Reedy race he ran Kyosho yellow/white, which are 75g/mm and 43.6g/mm respectively, which again, isn't covered with the spread of HB springs. Am I missing something with the HB spring ratings?

source: http://www.tytessman.com/setups/d413-setups.php
http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/Univ...pringChart.htm
http://www.hpiracing.co.uk/piw.php?partNo=113063

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Originally Posted by T. Deguzman
15/100/3.

I usually leave the F/R alone the go between 60-100-300 in the center. I have 100 most of the time but if the conditions are loose I go 60. If there's a huge quad I have trouble clearing then I go 300.
Thanks again for the good info! What brand diff oil do you use?
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Hi too all,

this is my first post here.
I'm sorry for my english, but i hope everyone unterstand me.

My question is, whats the size of the thread of the turnbuckles?
3mm?
3,5mm? or
4mm?

And which company does produce titanium turnbuckles?
Or will there some produced by HB in the future?

Thanks an greetings
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Originally Posted by Jakesterama
Will Hot Bodies be making a spring set for a reasonable cost that Ty will start using? $22/pair of springs is one of the reasons I sent my ZX-5 FS2 SP down the road. I see that the spring pairs for the D4 are $7-$9, much more reasonable.

edit: partially answered my own question from the Hot Bodies UK website -
#113059 - 1/10 BUGGY FRONT SPRING 52.3 G/MM (GREEN)
#113060 - 1/10 BUGGY FRONT SPRING 54.4 G/MM (WHITE)
#113061 - 1/10 BUGGY FRONT SPRING 56.7 G/MM (BLUE)
#113062 - 1/10 BUGGY FRONT SPRING 59.1 G/MM (YELLOW)
#113063 - 1/10 BUGGY FRONT SPRING 61.8 G/MM (GOLD) (Standard)
#113064 - 1/10 BUGGY FRONT SPRING 64.8 G/MM (RED)

#113065 - 1/10 BUGGY REAR SPRING 32.9 G/MM (GREEN)
#113066 - 1/10 BUGGY REAR SPRING 34.0 G/MM (WHITE)
#113067 - 1/10 BUGGY REAR SPRING 35.2 G/MM (BLUE)
#113068 - 1/10 BUGGY REAR SPRING 36.4 G/MM (YELLOW) (Standard)
#113069 - 1/10 BUGGY REAR SPRING 37.8 G/MM (GOLD)
#113070 - 1/10 BUGGY REAR SPRING 39.2 G/MM (RED)

edit 2: Ty was running Kyosho XGear orange/yellow for ROAR nats, IFMAR worlds, and the Cactus Classic. I can't find an actual rating for Kyosho Super Hard/Orange fronts, but Kyosho Hard/Yellow fronts are 75g/mm which is way heavier than the heaviest front HB spring. Kyosho Hard/Yellow rears are 47g/mm, which also heavier than all the HB springs...

For the Reedy race he ran Kyosho yellow/white, which are 75g/mm and 43.6g/mm respectively, which again, isn't covered with the spread of HB springs. Am I missing something with the HB spring ratings?

source: http://www.tytessman.com/setups/d413-setups.php
http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/Univ...pringChart.htm
http://www.hpiracing.co.uk/piw.php?partNo=113063
Durango springs provide great range. I will most likely use them when I race on the rug.
Durango spring chart:http://www.petitrc.com/setup/durango...ringsChart.pdf
Favorite spring chart: http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/BuggyBigBoreSpring.pdf
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Originally Posted by GermanOffroader
Hi too all,

this is my first post here.
I'm sorry for my english, but i hope everyone unterstand me.

My question is, whats the size of the thread of the turnbuckles?
3mm?
3,5mm? or
4mm?

And which company does produce titanium turnbuckles?
Or will there some produced by HB in the future?

Thanks an greetings
Martin
Not sure the size, but lundsford is the company everyone goes too for turnbuckles. Your English is infinity times better than my German, keep up the good work
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Originally Posted by AlderBoy
Thanks again for the good info! What brand diff oil do you use?
Good question AlderBoy. Torrance what diff and shock fluid brand are you using im using Mugen diff fluids in my 8th and 4wdsc and losi shock oils?
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Originally Posted by Jakesterama
Will Hot Bodies be making a spring set for a reasonable cost that Ty will start using? $22/pair of springs is one of the reasons I sent my ZX-5 FS2 SP down the road. I see that the spring pairs for the D4 are $7-$9, much more reasonable.

edit: partially answered my own question from the Hot Bodies UK website -
#113059 - 1/10 BUGGY FRONT SPRING 52.3 G/MM (GREEN)
#113060 - 1/10 BUGGY FRONT SPRING 54.4 G/MM (WHITE)
#113061 - 1/10 BUGGY FRONT SPRING 56.7 G/MM (BLUE)
#113062 - 1/10 BUGGY FRONT SPRING 59.1 G/MM (YELLOW)
#113063 - 1/10 BUGGY FRONT SPRING 61.8 G/MM (GOLD) (Standard)
#113064 - 1/10 BUGGY FRONT SPRING 64.8 G/MM (RED)

#113065 - 1/10 BUGGY REAR SPRING 32.9 G/MM (GREEN)
#113066 - 1/10 BUGGY REAR SPRING 34.0 G/MM (WHITE)
#113067 - 1/10 BUGGY REAR SPRING 35.2 G/MM (BLUE)
#113068 - 1/10 BUGGY REAR SPRING 36.4 G/MM (YELLOW) (Standard)
#113069 - 1/10 BUGGY REAR SPRING 37.8 G/MM (GOLD)
#113070 - 1/10 BUGGY REAR SPRING 39.2 G/MM (RED)

edit 2: Ty was running Kyosho XGear orange/yellow for ROAR nats, IFMAR worlds, and the Cactus Classic. I can't find an actual rating for Kyosho Super Hard/Orange fronts, but Kyosho Hard/Yellow fronts are 75g/mm which is way heavier than the heaviest front HB spring. Kyosho Hard/Yellow rears are 47g/mm, which also heavier than all the HB springs...

For the Reedy race he ran Kyosho yellow/white, which are 75g/mm and 43.6g/mm respectively, which again, isn't covered with the spread of HB springs. Am I missing something with the HB spring ratings?

source: http://www.tytessman.com/setups/d413-setups.php
http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/Univ...pringChart.htm
http://www.hpiracing.co.uk/piw.php?partNo=113063
Bear in mind that certainly cactus was ridiculously high grip and traction roll prone, so I would expect springs used there to be at the absolute upper end of the spectrum of what you'll ever need!

Also, unfortunately (I hate $20 per pair too!) the extra coat may be why they are better and so many people use them!
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