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Old 02-01-2017, 08:53 AM   #10996
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Are you using the HB alum servo horn because the taller ones will make that angle I run one on my D812 and had to use two 1mm or 2mm ball stud washers on the bellcrank under the servo turnbuckle ball end it straighten it perfect .
I am using the stock servo saver horn right now. It angles from rear to front of the car if that makes sense. Like this:

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FRONT

Not that extreme mind you. Its why I was wondering about how far forward on the chassis to go do to this as the current spacer seems like it needs more. Nothing binding though, just something I noticed.

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One other thing, did they change the format of the setup sheet? If so, where can you get the latest one?
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:46 PM   #10997
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alright I got my daughters vehicle basically rebuilt with a carpet setup on it. yeah there definitely is a good screw count there to get to things lol however, to be honest its not too bad. I think the part that could be better in my opinion, maybe exotek can make this, is they should do a split diff mount. That way, you can just take off the top and pull the diff without having the do the weird twist.

Outside of that, plastics are really good, same with screws. Very nice quality, actually excellent quality from what I am seeing and this is the used team driver kit. The new in box kit came today and will work on that tomorrow.
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Alright I got my vehicle almost fully together. The exotek chassis is very nice. Only concern I am seeing is that the battery posts appear to be too short just installing them on the chassis relative to the what was done on the stock chassis (they rode on the graphite battery tray). I added some similar thickness shims for them to ride on though I am not sure if this should have been needed? But my impression is that the lower screw is too long to thread into the post properly.

Outside of that, very nice setup. They really should make a split motor mount
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Old 02-04-2017, 05:56 AM   #10999
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Hi All,

I am planning to build a D413. Would a Low Profile Servo be adequate for the Steering application on this Car? The one that I currently have is Sanwa SRG-BLS Ver. 2, the torque is 7.6kg. Or if it is not enough I am planning to get a Sanwa SRG-LS with a 10.1kg torque.

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Don't know either servo but I think speed is more of what your after. Don't need a lot of torque to move these tires but speed you will want in response.
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Hello RcJunky76,

Thank You for Your input. The speed is 0.08 Sec. I guess it would be fast enough, right?

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Don't know either servo but I think speed is more of what your after. Don't need a lot of torque to move these tires but speed you will want in response.
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That will work.. Good luck and enjoy your build..
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Hello RcJunky76,

Thank You for Your input. The speed is 0.08 Sec. I guess it would be fast enough, right?

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.08 is a good speed.
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Old 02-04-2017, 08:45 PM   #11004
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If anybody is running 13.5 and looking for a 34 pinion, I have a new in package one that I don't need. It is a TLR alum pinion.
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Old 02-05-2017, 07:12 AM   #11005
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Alright So I was able to get in a race with the D413s I picked up. The breakdown of the vehicles basically are:

My setup:
- Exotek Pro 17 chassis
- Exotek Steering rack
- Exotek rear wing mounts and buttons
- Exotek clamping hexes (apparently name only for the fronts, more on that ...)
- Exotek spur mount and spur gear setup
- Exotek shock caps
- Factory RC rear ball stud mount
- Factory RC center diff cover
- Jconcepts body and a low profile wing

Daughters setup
- Schelle Graphite +4mm chassis
- Exotek steering rack
- Exotek rear hexes
- Exotek spur gear mount and spur gear
- HB Alloy shock caps

I ended up using basically this setup:

Tessman carpet setup with Clay Slicks:
http://site.petitrc.com/setup/hotbod...Setup20141221/

Few notable changes:
- Went with stock springs
- used 2 x 1.6mm pistons up front, 2 x 1.7mm pistons rear
- 700CST oil front, 500CST oil rear (PT Brand)
- shock position on tower was 1 in from setup sheet

The vehicles were all equipped for our 13.5 class on a small tight track. The ESC was installed up front, receiver in the rear.

We ran the vehicles as stated above. My daughter who is still learning liked the feel of her vehicle and we didn't make any changes or things to note based on her thoughts (still new).

For me, things I noticed initially in comparison to my previous Durango dex410v5:

- Vehicle had a slight push to it on power
- The vehicle felt pretty planted
- Handled bumpy sections of the track better
- I could push the vehicle as hard as the durango versus traction rolling, but this was slight. The durango would not traction roll incomparison at all.
- Punch in comparison to other vehicles was reasonable. (note, this technically is an open class but alot of guys are going to 13.5 motors, others usually use 10.5s)

I ended up moving the shock positions out on the towers and liked the feel (seemed to be a bit more responsive).

in the end I was faster with the HB vehicle for my driving style. I think the big things I need to work on are:

- More on power steering and better rotation off power
- Less traction roll issues (these tires are the same I used on the Durango, so they are good for the track)

I am thinking of changing:

- More limiters in shocks for less droop
- Diff oil changes (heavier front and rear)

Any other suggestions?

I'll also be putting on the same exotek chassis for my daughter too so we'll have similar setups.
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Cain I have the same on power push but a different chassis, I would like to know how you fix this. I don't want a loose rear end just a little tiny bit more on power steering/rotation.
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Hi All,

I would like to ask which tire that is suitable for Out Door Loose Track? I am thinking of Blockade, maybe M3 or M4. Please kindly share any information if any.

Thanks to RcJunky76 and Yeti AS3 for Your inputs.

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I would like to ask which tire that is suitable for Out Door Loose Track? I am thinking of Blockade, maybe M3 or M4. Please kindly share any information if any.

Thanks to RcJunky76 and Yeti AS3 for Your inputs.

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Jconcepts green double dee's with open cell foam are the best I have tried. Open cell foam was the key on the loose outdoor stuff.
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Hello Cameron Kellogg,

Thanks for Your info. Just want to make sure, "Open Cell" foam is the one that like regular Foam right? The other one of Closed Cell, like the Blue Pro-Line and Red AKA that use to be in the 1/8th Off Road Tires, right?

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Hello Cameron Kellogg,

Thanks for Your info. Just want to make sure, "Open Cell" foam is the one that like regular Foam right? The other one of Closed Cell, like the Blue Pro-Line and Red AKA that use to be in the 1/8th Off Road Tires, right?

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Correct.
Open cell is like the team trinity bomb ones.
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