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Old 10-09-2014, 06:28 PM   #5086
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they are tough. not too sure if you need hubs and arms. but never a bad idea to have that stuff. i have broke a rod end. maybe get a set.
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Old 10-09-2014, 06:29 PM   #5087
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and on the wheels. use 22-4 wheel offset front and rear.
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This is codswallop! I have and built a Kyosho ZX6 and Xray XB4 and the D413 is BY FAR the most sloppy and flexible and least well parts fitting kit.

@Mes - after building the VBC Firebolt and Wildfire, I think you'd be disappointed with the way the D413 goes together. If you're looking to find enjoyment in your build in comparison to the VBCs, the D413 is not the one to get ... but this is purely from a build perspective.

As per performance, I've not had a chance to run my D413 yet but Ty's Nats win speaks for itself
yeah... so the word "not" was missing from my post. I meant the d413 was NOT as good of fit and finish as kyosho and some others...
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Old 10-09-2014, 08:55 PM   #5089
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Thank you everyone for your input! Maybe I'll have to be patient this time and wait for the VBC, or add a third box to my collection of B-Max4 cartons...
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Already found one, online bnib and cheap too, called the store to verify and everything. After currency conversion I made out big!

Cool thanks for the suggestions. Are the wheels a HB specific offset or what wheels can I use? And no need for extra arms and stuff?
If you break arms on this car, you need to slow down and practice your driving, LOL JK. Arms are never a bad idea (stray car going backwards on straight). This thing is a tank and the only other thing I would recommend is getting a few different flavors of diff fluid, so that you can tune the car to your track as the kit setup is just a good starting point. The car will improve significantly if the diffs are tuned properly.
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Old 10-09-2014, 09:11 PM   #5091
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I guess I don't understand the comments about bad build quality. The car does have some slop, this point I agree with but I don't know if it has anything to do with building the car. Or if it is flexible, this seems like a design choice and one of the reasons it is so durable. When I think of build quality, I think of having to trim parts off plastic trees or things not lining up forcing me to ream something out or force it into place or a ballstud not being free when installed (maybe a design choice on this other car).

But the D413 had none of those issues. I heard a few had a bad part or two. In my case it went together very well and I liked how everything was put together into clearly labeled bags. The building experience was equal to any of the other cars that I have built.
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Old 10-09-2014, 10:30 PM   #5092
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Well, there is a few things I dont like about this car. But it is stupid durable. I was smiling last week when I thought I broke it......but the motor just came loose. I was a little disappointed, lol. The car drives really good. Durable and drives good. I can ignore the slope with that combo
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Old 10-09-2014, 10:55 PM   #5093
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Thank you everyone for your input! Maybe I'll have to be patient this time and wait for the VBC, or add a third box to my collection of B-Max4 cartons...
Get a 3rd BMax4 ... I think we're a pretty long way off the 4WD VBC ... at least a year I reckon
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I guess I don't understand the comments about bad build quality. The car does have some slop, this point I agree with but I don't know if it has anything to do with building the car. Or if it is flexible, this seems like a design choice and one of the reasons it is so durable. When I think of build quality, I think of having to trim parts off plastic trees or things not lining up forcing me to ream something out or force it into place or a ballstud not being free when installed (maybe a design choice on this other car).

But the D413 had none of those issues. I heard a few had a bad part or two. In my case it went together very well and I liked how everything was put together into clearly labeled bags. The building experience was equal to any of the other cars that I have built.
In comparison to other 4 wheelers, it just didn't come together as easily. Worst bit was for one of the front CVDs, the inner bearing was ever so slightly too big, so it doesn't rotate properly. I'm just hoping that it'll wear down quickly enough because on the bench, that corner of my car vibrates ...
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Tough decision... As it is probably only for a limited time, the D413 might be the better option due to its better resale value hereabouts. Built like a tank and great handling don't sound too bad either. I need an excuse to try an orange Xpert servo and black Viper brushless system with (probably) orange motor anyway!

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Old 10-10-2014, 08:33 AM   #5096
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are you guys using the plastic or aluminum b5 shock caps?
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cant use the aluminum caps. using the plastic caps.
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Tough decision... As it is probably only for a limited time, the D413 might be the better option due to its better resale value hereabouts. Built like a tank and great handling don't sound too bad either. I need an excuse to try an orange Xpert servo and black Viper brushless system with (probably) orange motor anyway!
The d413 has to be the most durable car on the market. I am sure others are pretty durable, but I constantly have people coming up to me asking how my car is not broke. The race director is starting to even make comedy about it. Not that I am a terrible driver. But going from 17.5 buggy to a 6.5 in a 4wd has been challenging. Learning this big triple that my stock buggy cant do has been...entertaining. I have seen the triple brake several faster drivers 4wd buggies. We also have an "S" section. I was trying to see how fast I could drive the car thought that section. I clipped the end of the "S" at a high rate of speed with my right arm. And nothing but a dent in the arm. This car is ridiculous durable.
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No joke about durability.... I've yet to break anything(including the spur) I've been running since July... I too run 17.5 buggy and its a bit of am adjustment
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Old 10-10-2014, 10:05 AM   #5100
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are you guys using the plastic or aluminum b5 shock caps?
If you want Alm Caps the Serpent SRX caps fit.
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