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Old 10-09-2014, 07:04 AM   #5071
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Have you tried running it having taken the slop out?
I have, the car drives the same.
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My car has the slop and I've also tried small washer to help eliminate some of the slop and can't notice when racing on track. I ran last week as my baseline test for track times and laps and this past Tuesday at practice, tried the washers and didn't notice a difference.
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Old 10-09-2014, 08:09 AM   #5073
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I guess because the cars going forward (most of the time), the steering hubs will be pushed back against the all the links. If anything, the affect of slop would be most apparent in braking
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Old 10-09-2014, 11:39 AM   #5074
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These kits have been around now for a while. Would you guys recommend it to someone who is used to Kyosho/Yokomo/VBC Racing quality and intends to run it on loose dirt? I am looking for a wheeler as a stand in until the VBC 4WD will be released. As I don't want the B44.3 due to its SAE hardware and Kyosho seems not to be a viable option in Germany at this time, it is probably either the D413 or the lightweight B-Max4III.
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Old 10-09-2014, 12:35 PM   #5075
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After running the car for some time now. I decided it was time to do a rebuild/ cleaning up of the D413. One thing that stood out more then anything was the front axle having a bind to it. At first I thought the hex on the rim vs. the front hex was off in tolerance. I would grind down the hex on the rim and still had the same problem.

I decided to change out the bearings in the front to see if that helped. After opening up my front axle I noticed that the plastic spacer between the 2 bearing had gotten smashed a little. I decided that this needed to be replaced with a alum version.

After looking all over the hobby shop board for a replacement, I came across a kyosho spacer. This fixed the problem with amazing results. No bind what so ever.

See picture attached for part and product header card. Comes with 4 spacers 2 that are smaller then the other. Use the smaller ones.
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After running the car for some time now. I decided it was time to do a rebuild/ cleaning up of the D413. One thing that stood out more then anything was the front axle having a bind to it. At first I thought the hex on the rim vs. the front hex was off in tolerance. I would grind down the hex on the rim and still had the same problem.

I decided to change out the bearings in the front to see if that helped. After opening up my front axle I noticed that the plastic spacer between the 2 bearing had gotten smashed a little. I decided that this needed to be replaced with a alum version.

After looking all over the hobby shop board for a replacement, I came across a kyosho spacer. This fixed the problem with amazing results. No bind what so ever.

See picture attached for part and product header card. Comes with 4 spacers 2 that are smaller then the other. Use the smaller ones.
I had the same problem as you. Another option is to use the rear hexes in front. http://www.amain.com/Hot-Bodies-12mm...-Hub-2/p298396
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These kits have been around now for a while. Would you guys recommend it to someone who is used to Kyosho/Yokomo/VBC Racing quality and intends to run it on loose dirt? I am looking for a wheeler as a stand in until the VBC 4WD will be released. As I don't want the B44.3 due to its SAE hardware and Kyosho seems not to be a viable option in Germany at this time, it is probably either the D413 or the lightweight B-Max4III.
you also may want to look at the pr racing SB401
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Old 10-09-2014, 02:54 PM   #5078
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you also may want to look at the pr racing SB401
Thank you for your suggestion, but the two above cars are the only ones that I'd consider giving a try. Of course, the Yoke would be the logical choice due to their great customer service and parts support in this part of the world, but I'd like to try a center diff for a change. Before somebody suggests Xray or TeamC, I don't consider these to be an option neither.
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The fit and finish of the d413 is as high as kyosho or some others. It makes the b4 slop look minor. I got over it because it is a tank and drives very good
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cool. wasnt sure if you know about the pr racing. Then out of the 2 i would go for d413 on loose dirt. i really like mine. and i race on dirt, but i have not had it long.
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Guys looking for a chassis protector the JC B44.2 one fits pretty dang close. Just a bit of trimming in the rear and around hinge pins.
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Ordering a d413, what parts should I order off with the kit as back up and necessary upgrades?
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order some luck. cause your gonna need one to find a kit. lol

Just kiding. get the b5 composite shock caps and stand off and some 3x12 socket cap head screws for the two motor clamp screws and the 4 on the top brace. it actually uses 3x10 on the two clamp screws but i use 3x12 and use washers.

and order a spare spur
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order some luck. cause your gonna need one to find a kit. lol

Just kiding. get the b5 composite shock caps and stand off and some 3x12 socket cap head screws for the two motor clamp screws and the 4 on the top brace. it actually uses 3x10 on the two clamp screws but i use 3x12 and use washers.

and order a spare spur
Already found one, online bnib and cheap too, called the store to verify and everything. After currency conversion I made out big!

Cool thanks for the suggestions. Are the wheels a HB specific offset or what wheels can I use? And no need for extra arms and stuff?
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The fit and finish of the d413 is as high as kyosho or some others. It makes the b4 slop look minor. I got over it because it is a tank and drives very good
This is codswallop! I have and built a Kyosho ZX6 and Xray XB4 and the D413 is BY FAR the most sloppy and flexible and least well parts fitting kit.

@Mes - after building the VBC Firebolt and Wildfire, I think you'd be disappointed with the way the D413 goes together. If you're looking to find enjoyment in your build in comparison to the VBCs, the D413 is not the one to get ... but this is purely from a build perspective.

As per performance, I've not had a chance to run my D413 yet but Ty's Nats win speaks for itself
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