66LikesHot Bodies D413 1/10 4WD Buggy
08-04-2014, 02:13 PM
#4036
Since no one is answering the questions on how to use other brand shock pistons with this car, let me take a crack at it and have other correct.
The car has washers that go above and below the piston. So even if you use a TLR piston, for example, the larger hole will probably still not be larger than the washer.
So one would mount up the piston but not tighten down the screw completely. Then start building the shock. Once the piston is build, the you could tighten up the screw and the piston would be centered and thus work properly.
P.S. Ok, maybe I understand why no one replied. I really had to word that carefully without it making the whole explanation go in a different direction. Not perfect, but close.
The car has washers that go above and below the piston. So even if you use a TLR piston, for example, the larger hole will probably still not be larger than the washer.
So one would mount up the piston but not tighten down the screw completely. Then start building the shock. Once the piston is build, the you could tighten up the screw and the piston would be centered and thus work properly.
P.S. Ok, maybe I understand why no one replied. I really had to word that carefully without it making the whole explanation go in a different direction. Not perfect, but close.
I placed the nut on loosely, ran the shaft up and down to center the piston then tightened down the nut a bit. Rinse and repeat until I had clean movement up and down all around shaft rotation. It hasn't moved yet, but I'm keeping an eye on it.
08-04-2014, 07:42 PM
#4040
I know ! Dude must be hookin you up with some personal stash.
Don't get me wrong. The Speed Passion in my car is performing well. If I wasn't tight on cash when I did this build, I would have had Tekin all the way. Just couldn't scrape enough together. Running Tekin in both my 8th scales and love um !
When I bought my 1st tekin set up for my 8IGHT-E 2.0, I really needed some help with understanding how to properly set it up. Jeremy (an AWESOME tech at Tekin) took a good 45 minutes with me on the phone and tutored me step by step through the entire esc linked with Hot Wire. What a huge help !!! His assistance went much farther than that because there's no telling how many fellow racers iv'e been able to pass the knowledge onto. I just can't speak well enough about what a great asset Tekin is to the R/C industry. And what a great program they have for our Military ! If I keep this up, I may be tempted to apply with them as a sales rep
Don't get me wrong. The Speed Passion in my car is performing well. If I wasn't tight on cash when I did this build, I would have had Tekin all the way. Just couldn't scrape enough together. Running Tekin in both my 8th scales and love um !
When I bought my 1st tekin set up for my 8IGHT-E 2.0, I really needed some help with understanding how to properly set it up. Jeremy (an AWESOME tech at Tekin) took a good 45 minutes with me on the phone and tutored me step by step through the entire esc linked with Hot Wire. What a huge help !!! His assistance went much farther than that because there's no telling how many fellow racers iv'e been able to pass the knowledge onto. I just can't speak well enough about what a great asset Tekin is to the R/C industry. And what a great program they have for our Military ! If I keep this up, I may be tempted to apply with them as a sales rep
08-04-2014, 10:36 PM
#4041
Since no one is answering the questions on how to use other brand shock pistons with this car, let me take a crack at it and have other correct.
The car has washers that go above and below the piston. So even if you use a TLR piston, for example, the larger hole will probably still not be larger than the washer.
So one would mount up the piston but not tighten down the screw completely. Then start building the shock. Once the piston is build, the you could tighten up the screw and the piston would be centered and thus work properly.
P.S. Ok, maybe I understand why no one replied. I really had to word that carefully without it making the whole explanation go in a different direction. Not perfect, but close.
The car has washers that go above and below the piston. So even if you use a TLR piston, for example, the larger hole will probably still not be larger than the washer.
So one would mount up the piston but not tighten down the screw completely. Then start building the shock. Once the piston is build, the you could tighten up the screw and the piston would be centered and thus work properly.
P.S. Ok, maybe I understand why no one replied. I really had to word that carefully without it making the whole explanation go in a different direction. Not perfect, but close.
That makes sense. Thx!
08-04-2014, 11:06 PM
#4042
First club race on new tires. Got third against some insanely fast locals. Not having a slipper will take some getting used to. How do I adjust the diffs so it does not feel like the front is carrying most of the load of getting the car to move forward. Running tessmans setup from Reedy Race. Poor guy with a 22-4 broke it in two out of the three heats we had.... (Church giggles)
08-04-2014, 11:08 PM
#4043
if you feel like too much power is going to the front, you would go thicker in the center diff.
08-04-2014, 11:22 PM
#4044
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for those that ran surf city classic dont forget to post your set ups 
. I know when I talked to JD Mora a few weeks back when he was practicing for it he ran a set up mirroring Tessmans Reedy set up. Curious to see if any others can share.
. I know when I talked to JD Mora a few weeks back when he was practicing for it he ran a set up mirroring Tessmans Reedy set up. Curious to see if any others can share.
08-05-2014, 05:00 AM
#4047
Think of it like this.
Heavier center diff oil would be similar to tightening a slipper clutch. Putting more equal power front and rear.
Thinner center diff oil would be similar to loosening a slipper clutch. Putting more power to the front while on throttle.
The following does hold basic fact / truth, but ultimately comes down to the condition of the track surface and personal driving style.
Heavier rear diff oil may help give you more straight forward bite (as long as the center diff is supplying enough drive to the rear) , but the rear might want to lose traction while on throttle through a turn.
Lighter rear diff oil will provide better on throttle control in turns, and personally I've never really been in a situation where it hurt my speed on the straights.
Hope this is helpful.
Heavier center diff oil would be similar to tightening a slipper clutch. Putting more equal power front and rear.
Thinner center diff oil would be similar to loosening a slipper clutch. Putting more power to the front while on throttle.
The following does hold basic fact / truth, but ultimately comes down to the condition of the track surface and personal driving style.
Heavier rear diff oil may help give you more straight forward bite (as long as the center diff is supplying enough drive to the rear) , but the rear might want to lose traction while on throttle through a turn.
Lighter rear diff oil will provide better on throttle control in turns, and personally I've never really been in a situation where it hurt my speed on the straights.
Hope this is helpful.
08-05-2014, 07:39 AM
#4049
Think of it like this.
Heavier center diff oil would be similar to tightening a slipper clutch. Putting more equal power front and rear.
Thinner center diff oil would be similar to loosening a slipper clutch. Putting more power to the front while on throttle.
The following does hold basic fact / truth, but ultimately comes down to the condition of the track surface and personal driving style.
Heavier rear diff oil may help give you more straight forward bite (as long as the center diff is supplying enough drive to the rear) , but the rear might want to lose traction while on throttle through a turn.
Lighter rear diff oil will provide better on throttle control in turns, and personally I've never really been in a situation where it hurt my speed on the straights.
Hope this is helpful.
Heavier center diff oil would be similar to tightening a slipper clutch. Putting more equal power front and rear.
Thinner center diff oil would be similar to loosening a slipper clutch. Putting more power to the front while on throttle.
The following does hold basic fact / truth, but ultimately comes down to the condition of the track surface and personal driving style.
Heavier rear diff oil may help give you more straight forward bite (as long as the center diff is supplying enough drive to the rear) , but the rear might want to lose traction while on throttle through a turn.
Lighter rear diff oil will provide better on throttle control in turns, and personally I've never really been in a situation where it hurt my speed on the straights.
Hope this is helpful.
08-05-2014, 09:53 AM
#4050
Think of it like this.
Heavier center diff oil would be similar to tightening a slipper clutch. Putting more equal power front and rear.
Thinner center diff oil would be similar to loosening a slipper clutch. Putting more power to the front while on throttle.
The following does hold basic fact / truth, but ultimately comes down to the condition of the track surface and personal driving style.
Heavier rear diff oil may help give you more straight forward bite (as long as the center diff is supplying enough drive to the rear) , but the rear might want to lose traction while on throttle through a turn.
Lighter rear diff oil will provide better on throttle control in turns, and personally I've never really been in a situation where it hurt my speed on the straights.
Hope this is helpful.
Heavier center diff oil would be similar to tightening a slipper clutch. Putting more equal power front and rear.
Thinner center diff oil would be similar to loosening a slipper clutch. Putting more power to the front while on throttle.
The following does hold basic fact / truth, but ultimately comes down to the condition of the track surface and personal driving style.
Heavier rear diff oil may help give you more straight forward bite (as long as the center diff is supplying enough drive to the rear) , but the rear might want to lose traction while on throttle through a turn.
Lighter rear diff oil will provide better on throttle control in turns, and personally I've never really been in a situation where it hurt my speed on the straights.
Hope this is helpful.