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Kyosho ZX6.6 New Parts (* = required to update ZX6 to ZX6.6 platform)


LA359B - Center Mount Set (ZX6.6)*
LA375 - Center Diff. Gear Set(ZX6.6)*
LA375-01 - Center Diff. Gear Case Set(ZX6.6)
LA375-78 - Spur Gear(48P-78T/ZX6.6)
LA376 - Center Drive Shaft (71.5/ZX6.6)*
LA377 - Center Drive Shaft (79.5/ZX6.6)* (x2)
LA378 - Center Drive Shaft (88/ZX6.6)*
LA379 - Joint Cup Cover (ZX6/ZX6.6)*
LAW54B-01 - HD Chassis*
LA355B - Side guard set*
UM713B - Rear Arms (from RB6)*
UM561 - Outer rear hinge pins*
LA236-12B - 1.2mm Front sway bar*
LA351B 4-hole front shock tower*


Options
VVC Blades TFW126
Spare Blades TFW001-01

Manuals

Lazer ZX6.6
Lazer ZX6

After Market Bodies

JConcepts Silencer

Weight Reduction options for 13.5 Class

Chassis:
UMW711B - Carbon composite rear arms
LAW60 - Carbon composite front upper bulkhead
LAW61 - Carbon composite rear upper bulkhead
LAW52 - Carbon composite front chassis brace
LAW53 - Carbon composite rear chassis brace
LA209HB - Carbon composite gear boxes (pinion bearing retainer & upper gearbox half only, lower half not compatible/saves 4.6g total)
Driveline:
LA211B - Plastic drive cups for center drive shafts coming out of front & rear gear boxes (requires drilling two holes for set screws to secure LA379)
TFW001 - Aluminum blade style outdrives (for ball diff/requires TF013)
LA202 - Aluminum pinion shafts (for ball diff)
TFW126 - VVC outdrives (for gear diff - front/rear/center)
TFW008 - VVC cross pins (for gear diff - front/rear/center)
Misc:
LAB06LW - LW Blade body
SK0402 - Ti screw set (Available at Lunsfordracing.com)
PTK-T-2111 - Ti screw set (cheaper, slightly less durable option)
LNS7765 - Ti ball studs
LNS2688 - Ti Turnbuckles
LNS36107 - Ti Turnbuckles (super duty)
W0201H - Hard anodized lower shock balls
1-N3024A-R - Aluminum M3x2.4 nuts (for shock standoffs)
1-N3033NA-R - Aluminum M3x3.3 locknuts

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Old 11-25-2014, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by joel45acp View Post
I currently run the latest ZX5, but I can't seem to find any info on what stock springs came with the kit. are the zx6 stock springs the same? thanks in advance.
I believe they are red front and rear

(someone correct me if im wrong)
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The ZX6 comes with Gold springs front and rear.
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thanks guys. I appreciate the info.
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guys ,just trying to understand rear bushings ,with track width and toe in on rear ,i have chart and have rb6 but cant really remember .
im wanting a greater amount of rear grip so i want skinny rear and 4 degree toe in ,so would i be DD in (front )and DD out (rear ) ??

plus then med track width with 4 degree toe in BB in (front) FF out (rear)

?? thanks
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Originally Posted by Gen View Post
guys ,just trying to understand rear bushings ,with track width and toe in on rear ,i have chart and have rb6 but cant really remember .
im wanting a greater amount of rear grip so i want skinny rear and 4 degree toe in ,so would i be DD in (front )and DD out (rear ) ??

plus then med track width with 4 degree toe in BB in (front) FF out (rear)

?? thanks


Here's the chart -
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/kyosho/...olderChart.pdf

DD in/DD out looks to work out to 3 degrees toe in.

BB in/FF out is again 3 degrees, and wider track width.
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Default ZX6 vs ZX5 on a low grip track.

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How does the ZX 6 performe, on a low grip racetrack vs the ZX5. It seems to me that the chassis on the ZX6 doesn't flex as much, as the ZX5 and therefore the ZX5 could/should outpreforme the ZX6 on a low grib racetrack .

What do you think ?
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Originally Posted by Gen View Post
guys ,just trying to understand rear bushings ,with track width and toe in on rear ,i have chart and have rb6 but cant really remember .
im wanting a greater amount of rear grip so i want skinny rear and 4 degree toe in ,so would i be DD in (front )and DD out (rear ) ??

plus then med track width with 4 degree toe in BB in (front) FF out (rear)

?? thanks
Track width and toe are 2 separate adjustments that the suspension mounts let you adjust to get more traction yes you use more toe about 3-3.5 is normal the track width widens or narrows the rear wheels. Widening makes the car more stable but slower out of the corner narrowing up the rear wheels will make the car faster out of the corner but less stable. You just need to test different set-ups till you get your car to that sweet spot.
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Originally Posted by racerkorer View Post
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How does the ZX 6 performe, on a low grip racetrack vs the ZX5. It seems to me that the chassis on the ZX6 doesn't flex as much, as the ZX5 and therefore the ZX5 could/should outpreforme the ZX6 on a low grib racetrack .

What do you think ?
in lower grip, I've yet to get my zx6 to be as good as my zx5
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Can you help me understand why a narrow rear is faster out of the corner verse a wide rear ,wide rear should give more steering so i should be able to get on the throttle a little sooner and it should have more on power steering
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I have a SC6 and a RB6. I've just added a D413 after reading some very positive reviews. I seriously considered the ZX6 -- a very tough decision.

Although the Hot Bodies has some really innovative features and durability is proven, which sold me on it -- I must say that my Kyosho RCs are among the best built. Just something about the tolerances and the quality of the materials that really impress me. For example I am always careful about making sure my screws aren't overtightened. I managed to strip the plastic in the rear arm of my D413. Cripes. Don't get me wrong the D413 isn't exactly low grade because as mentioned it's pretty innovative and some of the materials are of higher quality... it's just after being spoiled by Kyosho the bar is pretty high. After spending a few days putting this new ride together I picked up my K cars and instantly noticed a difference, in favor of the Kyosho.

I hit the track for the first time tomorrow with the D413 hoping for a good first impression but I am thinking in the back of my mind what if I had purchased the ZX6.
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I have a SC6 and a RB6. I've just added a D413 after reading some very positive reviews. I seriously considered the ZX6 -- a very tough decision.

Although the Hot Bodies has some really innovative features and durability is proven, which sold me on it -- I must say that my Kyosho RCs are among the best built. Just something about the tolerances and the quality of the materials that really impress me. For example I am always careful about making sure my screws aren't overtightened. I managed to strip the plastic in the rear arm of my D413. Cripes. Don't get me wrong the D413 isn't exactly low grade because as mentioned it's pretty innovative and some of the materials are of higher quality... it's just after being spoiled by Kyosho the bar is pretty high. After spending a few days putting this new ride together I picked up my K cars and instantly noticed a difference, in favor of the Kyosho.

I hit the track for the first time tomorrow with the D413 hoping for a good first impression but I am thinking in the back of my mind what if I had purchased the ZX6.
Please keep me updated on your feeling on the D413. I am in a similar situation; I run all kyosho cars, but I'm having a hard time saying no to the innovations in the D413.
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Originally Posted by phillypete View Post
Please keep me updated on your feeling on the D413. I am in a similar situation; I run all kyosho cars, but I'm having a hard time saying no to the innovations in the D413.
I can speak from experience with both of these cars. Had the d413 then purchased the zx6. I found both cars very durable. The kyosho plastics are better. Setup wise I feel more comfortable with the zx6. I'm faster with it as well. The d413 is a great car but I like the zx6 better
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Just ran today with tebo's newest setup and it has transformed the car completely. Finely we are getting somewhere with this new platform. The setup uses the rb6 rear arms with a new lower shock location drilled further inboard.

http://jtprc.com/2014/11/24/new-rb6-...-setups-added/

Edit, I ran on a medium grip outdoor track that was bumpy.
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Just ran today with tebo's newest setup and it has transformed the car completely. Finely we are getting somewhere with this new platform. The setup uses the rb6 rear arms with a new lower shock location drilled further inboard.

http://jtprc.com/2014/11/24/new-rb6-...-setups-added/

Edit, I ran on a medium grip outdoor track that was bumpy.
That's great, I was going to install the setup this weekend. What tires work at ur track?
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I am getting ready to pull the trigger on some gear diffs for my ZX5 transformation to a ZX6 and there was a link to a video on here that seems to not be working any more. Is there any tips I should know about building the diffs or does someone have a link to the video. Also what are some diff oil recommendations to start with. I run on a med/high traction track.
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