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Old 05-02-2016, 10:37 AM
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I actually like Rear motor better for one reason. Regular Sized Lipos not Shorties.
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Originally Posted by bmag5000
I actually like Rear motor better for one reason. Regular Sized Lipos not Shorties.
Shorty is the new "regular sized lipos".
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When i buy Lipos i get the highest C rating and Capacity i can get.
So i get extra practice time. Shorties only go to 4800mah.
My lipos are 7600mah. Shorties have yet to catch up.
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Originally Posted by bmag5000
When i buy Lipos i get the highest C rating and Capacity i can get.
So i get extra practice time. Shorties only go to 4800mah.
My lipos are 7600mah. Shorties have yet to catch up.
I and many others are not worried about the fact that I can stay on the track for 45mins at a time...we buy shorties because from a performance standpoint they are lighter and offer better weight distribution options. But to each their own.
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If you are practicing with a full sized stick pack but are racing shorty, you are wasting your time. The weight difference and the resulting change on balance and handling is too great to be comparable. Using a stick pack for bashing is fine of course but always practice with what you intend to race with.
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Shorties are only good for mid motor. But if I had a mid motor id use Saddle Lipo packs.
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Originally Posted by Zerodefect
Looking back, has any single model car builder ever made the actual choice to create a rear motor race car? And admitted it

Real life dune buggies were based on the Volkswagon Beetle motor, which was a rear engine car. And that position carried over with that engine.

Then Tamiya comes out with a dune buggy RC car and puts the motor in the same spot so it's cool just like the real thing. Then we start racing Tamiyas. And then we start racing trucks that are also rear engine cause they're based on the buggy kits.

And then the AE RC10 came out. Did they put the motor back there by choice, or just because that's where Tamiya put it? Have we been racing rear motor car for all of these years for no reason what-so-ever?

It's funny looking back in this thread and thinking "Told ya so.".
Tamiya and Kyosho made RC cars with a model theme and based on real life cars of the time, AE pretty much followed. choice may not have been a issue and other limiting factors came into play.

- size and weight of electronics talking 1884 and prior
- battery size and weight
- tires of the time
- tracks where actual loamy, light packed, loose dirt

there were some that tried to mid motor RC10's in the late 80's but the above limiting factors came into play on offroad tracks, but they did work on hardpark clay/dirt, asphalt and carpet oval tracks.

look at shocks, we ran basicly the same shock sizes for near 30 years, until some started messing around with big bore springs and then shocks we run now.

electric touring cars started out as bashers with 4 near vert shocks, most stayed with the trend when TC caught on, even into carpet racing etc. awesomematix broke that mold finally, imo showing the 4 upright shocks are not required. appears serpent is testing a car against the accepted norm also.
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Originally Posted by fast-ho-cars

- size and weight of electronics talking 1884 and prior
- battery size and weight
- tires of the time
- tracks where actual loamy, light packed, loose dirt
Ahh yes, back then the only way to race was to have your car tied to a kite during a thunderstorm
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Originally Posted by Zerodefect
Looking back, has any single model car builder ever made the actual choice to create a rear motor race car? And admitted it

Real life dune buggies were based on the Volkswagon Beetle motor, which was a rear engine car. And that position carried over with that engine.


It's funny looking back in this thread and thinking "Told ya so.".
Current desert racing trucks have a big ol' GM LS V-8 hanging out the back of them. There are still many racing situations where a rear motor 2wd buggy works better, including many tracks where it has been abandoned in favor of mid-motor.

This hobby is full of strong kool-aid and an affinity for shiny things. That's as responsible for the proliferation as any real-world performance benefit.
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Originally Posted by Gearhead82
Ahh yes, back then the only way to race was to have your car tied to a kite during a thunderstorm
Steam power!
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Originally Posted by bmag5000
I actually like Rear motor better for one reason. Regular Sized Lipos not Shorties.
We're running a stick pack mounted transverse in front of the transaxle on the A6 based SCT. It goes where you point it and is very stable in the air. But it's a homebuilt mutt with a lot of unorthodox ideas built into the setup. Your experiences may vary....
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