1LikesTLR 8IGHT E 3.0 THREAD
04-22-2016, 03:09 PM
#3901
Noone wanted to answer the questions till I seemingly insulted a fellow driver for replacing a new motor with a lower KV motor. Then you guys want to come out of the woodwork touting your experience and how you have seen these smart asses that know everything.
I also have 20 plus years experience in cars and planes. I can tell you that:
There is no doubt a 1900KV is better for 6S than my 2200KV. I agree with that because 1900KV gives me better gearing options. That doesn't mean I can't get there on 2200KV...I will try. I do not see the point of buying a 1900KV motor NOW until I try to get there on the new 2200KV. The math tells me I can get there and do it with less amps, better efficiency, and a cooler motor. And if I can't, fine, Ill just buy some 4S batteries and be done. What I will not do is replace a new motor that is working fine with another new motor....that is silly.
Hours after this was posted, Hobbyking had Zippy Flightmax 4S 5800mah 30C on sale for $27 each. 3 of them shipped is $92....What a bargain. I bought them. I have had Flightmax batts in my jets pulling some serious amps, so I know they are decent batteries. I might still at least run some test with 6S and see what I can match on the wattmeter.
I also have 20 plus years experience in cars and planes. I can tell you that:
- A 6S system will be more efficient than a 4S for the SAME amount of power/watts
- A 6S system will run cooler than a 4S for the SAME amount of power/watts
- A 6S system will produce less amps than a 4S for the SAME amount of power/watts
There is no doubt a 1900KV is better for 6S than my 2200KV. I agree with that because 1900KV gives me better gearing options. That doesn't mean I can't get there on 2200KV...I will try. I do not see the point of buying a 1900KV motor NOW until I try to get there on the new 2200KV. The math tells me I can get there and do it with less amps, better efficiency, and a cooler motor. And if I can't, fine, Ill just buy some 4S batteries and be done. What I will not do is replace a new motor that is working fine with another new motor....that is silly.
Hours after this was posted, Hobbyking had Zippy Flightmax 4S 5800mah 30C on sale for $27 each. 3 of them shipped is $92....What a bargain. I bought them. I have had Flightmax batts in my jets pulling some serious amps, so I know they are decent batteries. I might still at least run some test with 6S and see what I can match on the wattmeter.
This lower rpm loading changes things. In a range where the motor is less efficient the amperage will be very high due to the higher driving voltage of a 6S while highly loaded. The power will be higher on the 6S with the same motor, not the same power, and be trickier to maintain reasonable temperatures. Unlike on a plane where a closer match can frequently, but not always, be achieved with a prop change without a motor change.
Doesn't mean you can't experiment and have fun with the 6S packs. It's a popular monster truck setup, loads of power. But I suspect you will find for track use the 4S packs to be a wise investment.
04-22-2016, 04:10 PM
#3902
Tech Initiate
04-22-2016, 05:41 PM
#3903
Tech Fanatic
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WHAT? What 2000 year you live on?
Come on... these super dope lipos can been have for: 90bucks.
Dimensions: 165x52x44mm
-Unless it's another graphene tech from another manufacter's, today there is not a single lipo on earth for RC that can compete with graphene. 900 charge cycles and under LOAD they are the only tech that holds voltage like no tomorow....!!!
Forget it have the Turnigy name, which is good on some, but this is Graphene tech.
All lipos that are not graphene are oldschool now!!
Or this for 70bucks...
Dimensions: 144x51x43mm
Come on... these super dope lipos can been have for: 90bucks.
Dimensions: 165x52x44mm
-Unless it's another graphene tech from another manufacter's, today there is not a single lipo on earth for RC that can compete with graphene. 900 charge cycles and under LOAD they are the only tech that holds voltage like no tomorow....!!!
Forget it have the Turnigy name, which is good on some, but this is Graphene tech.
All lipos that are not graphene are oldschool now!!
Or this for 70bucks...
Dimensions: 144x51x43mm
04-23-2016, 11:54 AM
#3905
Tech Initiate
Sounds like you got the 8ight-e RTR chassis. TLR241006 should be a gold chassis. I use this tuning guide:
http://www.tlracing.com/ProdInfo/Fil...uning_Tips.pdf
I would definitely try one change at a time to get a feel for what each change does. If you can still find Adam drake tlr videos those are good to watch. His new mugen ones are pretty close as well minus a few differences between the cars.
http://www.tlracing.com/ProdInfo/Fil...uning_Tips.pdf
I would definitely try one change at a time to get a feel for what each change does. If you can still find Adam drake tlr videos those are good to watch. His new mugen ones are pretty close as well minus a few differences between the cars.
That´s the chassis plate I got:
And that´s the kind of chassis plate they tell you you would get. http://www.horizonhobby.com/tft-chas...e-30-tlr241006
04-23-2016, 08:56 PM
#3907
I ran 2 shortys in my 3.0 They worked really well. Just kind of a pain to deal with charging/taking out of the car to charge/jumper wire.
04-24-2016, 11:05 AM
#3908
Hi,
Have my buggy almost completely put together now. Looking at the front end, while the left spindle is virtually straight, the right spindle is turned a a bit to the right (toe-out).
The steering rods are the same length - down to a 100th of a mm.
I imagine I can fix by adjusting the right steering rod? But am wondering if there is anything else I should be looking at given the steering rods are currently the same length.
Have my buggy almost completely put together now. Looking at the front end, while the left spindle is virtually straight, the right spindle is turned a a bit to the right (toe-out).
The steering rods are the same length - down to a 100th of a mm.
I imagine I can fix by adjusting the right steering rod? But am wondering if there is anything else I should be looking at given the steering rods are currently the same length.
04-24-2016, 01:05 PM
#3909
Woohoo new body!!
Last edited by rotor head33; 04-25-2016 at 04:34 PM.
04-24-2016, 04:48 PM
#3910
Very sharp! What tires are those?
04-24-2016, 05:22 PM
#3911
Aka catapults on aka wheels. Don't like the wheels at all but love the tires. They are great on a fairly loose dusty track. Anxious to see how they perform on our new track that is way more packed.
04-24-2016, 06:27 PM
#3912
Noone wanted to answer the questions till I seemingly insulted a fellow driver for replacing a new motor with a lower KV motor. Then you guys want to come out of the woodwork touting your experience and how you have seen these smart asses that know everything.
I also have 20 plus years experience in cars and planes. I can tell you that:
I also have 20 plus years experience in cars and planes. I can tell you that:
- A 6S system will be more efficient than a 4S for the SAME amount of power/watts
- A 6S system will run cooler than a 4S for the SAME amount of power/watts
- A 6S system will produce less amps than a 4S for the SAME amount of power/watts
If you want a 6S system you choose a lower KV motor than would be appropriate for a 4S system. It is not simply a matter of changing gearing.
There is no doubt a 1900KV is better for 6S than my 2200KV. I agree with that because 1900KV gives me better gearing options. That doesn't mean I can't get there on 2200KV...I will try. I do not see the point of buying a 1900KV motor NOW until I try to get there on the new 2200KV. The math tells me I can get there and do it with less amps, better efficiency, and a cooler motor. And if I can't, fine, Ill just buy some 4S batteries and be done. What I will not do is replace a new motor that is working fine with another new motor....that is silly.
Hours after this was posted, Hobbyking had Zippy Flightmax 4S 5800mah 30C on sale for $27 each. 3 of them shipped is $92....What a bargain. I bought them. I have had Flightmax batts in my jets pulling some serious amps, so I know they are decent batteries. I might still at least run some test with 6S and see what I can match on the wattmeter.
Hours after this was posted, Hobbyking had Zippy Flightmax 4S 5800mah 30C on sale for $27 each. 3 of them shipped is $92....What a bargain. I bought them. I have had Flightmax batts in my jets pulling some serious amps, so I know they are decent batteries. I might still at least run some test with 6S and see what I can match on the wattmeter.
04-25-2016, 10:28 AM
#3913
So is my battery going to be a problem?
Associated Reedy LiPo 4S 14.8V 6500mAh 65C
First run today. Been working on the other truck and haven't had time to really test out the 8ight. Brought it to a field. That's what this thing needs, a big wide open space. Holy Ba'ath Party Loyalists batman
is this thing fast.
You guys are talking 6s? Whdaya nuts? 4s is out of control.
My motor was too hot to touch. Mamba Monster 2 2650kv stock gearing.
Associated Reedy LiPo 4S 14.8V 6500mAh 65C
First run today. Been working on the other truck and haven't had time to really test out the 8ight. Brought it to a field. That's what this thing needs, a big wide open space. Holy Ba'ath Party Loyalists batman
is this thing fast. You guys are talking 6s? Whdaya nuts? 4s is out of control.
My motor was too hot to touch. Mamba Monster 2 2650kv stock gearing.
04-25-2016, 11:56 AM
#3914
Tech Initiate
Looking at a bunch of the these pictures, seems most do not have the antenna sticking out of the body? Is this not required depending on the radio? I have an airtronics mt-4.
