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Old 02-13-2013, 11:03 AM
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Exactly why there should only be an open/mod class and then a rookie class. Then no one can really cheat.

With open/mod you don't have to chase the motor and battery of the week to keep up with the guys who somehow get that extra power.

Stock should go the way of the dinosaurs.

Faster drivers will be in the A, regardless of their equipment.
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:04 AM
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Let the manufacturer cheat for you: Buy a Trinity D3.5 17.5 turn motor!
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Just make all classes open.... let the driving decide.
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:10 AM
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The biggest problem with spec is it use to be our entry level class for newer racers ...


Now stock for experts and Sc17.5 is the new beginner class ..



We need a successful beginner racing program to help keep the sport growing.

A class for both newer racers and the experience racers would make a huge improvement in keeping the new guy racing week after week .....
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry View Post
The biggest problem with spec is it use to be our entry level class for newer racers ...


Now stock for experts and Sc17.5 is the new beginner class ..



We need a successful beginner racing program to help keep the sport growing.

A class for both newer racers and the experience racers would make a huge improvement in keeping the new guy racing week after week .....
Stock got pretty crazy with the timed brushes and pushed red cell 1400mah battery packs. Never really recovered after that...
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:23 AM
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A lot of the tracks I race at in Michigan have open 17.5 and blinky 13.5 for Stock, or they have no Stock class at all. I just put my ESC in blinky mode to race stock here in Wisconsin, so far I haven't seen anybody blowing me away....

As for cheating, I don't do it. I don't think it is worth while dealing with toy cars???
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:40 AM
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Honestly I was not a cheater up until a month ago when ROAR decided to change their mind, instantly making me a cheater. But with every track and series that I run still allowing it, well then it is not cheating! HA

I do not believe that grinding the endbell to get more timing out of motor is anywhere against the rules. You can adjust the motor timing as much as you want, you just have to run zero or "blinky" in the speedo. Correct me if I am wrong, but also please show me the rule!

Alot of what makes a car look like it has cheater motor or cheating on speedo comes down to driving style. I put the motor in, time it to what I want, and gear to temp. Driving style is everything.
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Old 02-13-2013, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Edumakated View Post
Exactly why there should only be an open/mod class and then a rookie class. Then no one can really cheat.

With open/mod you don't have to chase the motor and battery of the week to keep up with the guys who somehow get that extra power.

Stock should go the way of the dinosaurs.

Faster drivers will be in the A, regardless of their equipment.
Yes. Make it so that to move out of rookie class you have to be within a certain % of laps compared to the fast guys. Then you can run whatever you want but if you don't practice enough or run stupid fast motors for your ability, you won't make enough laps to move out of the rookie class.


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Old 02-13-2013, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ta_man View Post
Let the manufacturer cheat for you: Buy a Trinity D3.5 17.5 turn motor!
Roar made thousands of us racers cheaters. All over the fact they dont understand the manufacturing process, or how to use their new equipment properly.
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Originally Posted by Edumakated View Post
Exactly why there should only be an open/mod class and then a rookie class. Then no one can really cheat.

With open/mod you don't have to chase the motor and battery of the week to keep up with the guys who somehow get that extra power.

Stock should go the way of the dinosaurs.

Faster drivers will be in the A, regardless of their equipment.
I totally agree. Stock is just one big turn off to me.

I was at a track a few weeks ago practicing with my 17.5 truck. I had a lot of trouble making a certain jump. At club racing that night, other drivers were making that jump with ease. I thought there was something wrong with my truck. Nope, I come to find that these guys were using timing boost, which is against the rules at that track. So here I was knocking myself out with adjustments and changes trying to "fix" a problem that didn't exist. That was pretty much the final straw for me and "Stock" 17.5. That class is a joke.

Driver's like to say "It's just club racing." To that I say, "If it's just club racing, then why do you feel the need to cheat?".
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Old 02-13-2013, 01:58 PM
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Its my understanding that any driver on the stand with a mustache is considered a cheater. ROAR rules state that anyone sporting a 'stache is in violation of the swagger rule.
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Jumped the pipe yes I have. But I always do the right thing
and stop and wait a couple seconds if I do. I like moving past the slow moving trucks.
I slowly creep my way to the highest position I can go. If I cant shake someone
off my tail I usually dont let them pass, I dont know if that's cheating or not.
But ive seen some pretty wacky manuvers, ive had people jump in my lane before.
That's when it really gets chaotic on the drivers stand. Slow turn marshalls dont help.
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Old 02-13-2013, 02:14 PM
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racing etiquette is another topic all together. Jumping pipe and not wait is cheating, not letting a faster drive past you is another thread all together, lol.
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You have to be a pretty sad individual in order to cheat in a spec class. It's much more rewarding to be the "fast guy" the legit way IMO.

EDIT: Plus, who wants to be known as that guy who cheats?
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Have I cheated ? OH YEA , and I doubt it my results were any better than straight up.
Would I cheat now ? why ? no fun it that. Way more fun beating the cheaters with legit stuff !
Funny thing is looking at the results from a local race last night it's clear that a few people cut the track. Were they cheating ? Surely they know they shaved a couple seconds here and there. Should they report themselves ? Cheating has it's levels.

With that said I love stock class and would drop all other forms of rc in my perfect rc world there would be only stock 2w buggy.
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