10LikesTLR TEN-SCTE 2.0 Kit Thread
02-19-2013, 08:02 PM
#751
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Haha ... Come on ... For one all losi owners should know what "hopped up" means. I'm pretty sure losi invented the term!!!
Anyways I like my jammin but last weekend agravated me... Ill give it a few more runs and by then maybe it will be march and the kit will be shipping.
Anyways I like my jammin but last weekend agravated me... Ill give it a few more runs and by then maybe it will be march and the kit will be shipping.
02-19-2013, 08:15 PM
#752
No, its all driver...Keep in mind that Matt has been driving the MIP laced truck for some time now and Anthony just got his 2.0 and its not like you just get a truck and nail driving it the very first time. You can have the fastest truck in town but if you cant drive its not gonna do chit for you
02-19-2013, 08:18 PM
#753
...after some members' suggestions and doing some reading, I've decided to get the HobbyWing Xerun SCT Pro C2 3656SD 4000kv Sensored Brushless Combo. So, now I need to know what is the lowest C rating LiPo battery can I use safely? Is a 25C 2S LiPo too low of a C rating for that SCT Pro esc and 3656SD 4000kv motor combo? I prefer to get advice from those who have actually ran that particular combo. But, I don't mind hearing what others have to say about it.
crap packs do die fast in these setups.
02-19-2013, 08:29 PM
#754
Originally Posted by ussprinceton
...after some members' suggestions and doing some reading, I've decided to get the HobbyWing Xerun SCT Pro C2 3656SD 4000kv Sensored Brushless Combo. So, now I need to know what is the lowest C rating LiPo battery can I use safely? Is a 25C 2S LiPo too low of a C rating for that SCT Pro esc and 3656SD 4000kv motor combo? I prefer to get advice from those who have actually ran that particular combo. But, I don't mind hearing what others have to say about it.
Don't waste your money on these then...
...after some members' suggestions and doing some reading, I've decided to get the HobbyWing Xerun SCT Pro C2 3656SD 4000kv Sensored Brushless Combo. So, now I need to know what is the lowest C rating LiPo battery can I use safely? Is a 25C 2S LiPo too low of a C rating for that SCT Pro esc and 3656SD 4000kv motor combo? I prefer to get advice from those who have actually ran that particular combo. But, I don't mind hearing what others have to say about it.
Don't waste your money on these then...
02-19-2013, 08:38 PM
#755
I ran a set of those orion carbons for a full season and they were outstanding, zero issues.. but I have heard more and more folks complaining about those Orion packs. Maybe quality control is off 
They are 'older' packs now, not giving them an excuse for crap quality. But I'd stick with the newer gen's of lipo's myself.
Don't run any of these 2s packs to LVC when you can help it, you shouldn't hit that in a race and you shouldn't hit that in practice! Set the LVC high 3.2min more if you are worried about your packs life. Remember the lower the voltage goes in the lipo the higher the amp draw for the same output. You don't slow down as you run down your pack. Most lipo's die from two things.. bad connections or battery plugs that are not secure and arc causing melting and heat issues and simlpy pushing them too hard at the bottom of the pack, I see guys take their packs to LVC all the time and those packs never hold up as long over time. We put a big load on them, be nice and they will be nice back
This is just an example to show what I mean...
Motor pulls 700watts
700w = 8.4v * 83amps
700w = 6.4v * 109amps
700w = 6.0v * 117amps
Amps and heat are what wear and destroy so limit exposure and extend life
They are 'older' packs now, not giving them an excuse for crap quality. But I'd stick with the newer gen's of lipo's myself.Don't run any of these 2s packs to LVC when you can help it, you shouldn't hit that in a race and you shouldn't hit that in practice! Set the LVC high 3.2min more if you are worried about your packs life. Remember the lower the voltage goes in the lipo the higher the amp draw for the same output. You don't slow down as you run down your pack. Most lipo's die from two things.. bad connections or battery plugs that are not secure and arc causing melting and heat issues and simlpy pushing them too hard at the bottom of the pack, I see guys take their packs to LVC all the time and those packs never hold up as long over time. We put a big load on them, be nice and they will be nice back
This is just an example to show what I mean...
Motor pulls 700watts
700w = 8.4v * 83amps
700w = 6.4v * 109amps
700w = 6.0v * 117amps
Amps and heat are what wear and destroy so limit exposure and extend life
02-19-2013, 08:44 PM
#756
Stick with the cheaper lipos like 2s Nanotech , G-Force 50c or higher lipos and they hold up better than the more expensive ones.
02-19-2013, 09:53 PM
#757
So it follows, you are not pulling the same watts when you are about to dump as when the battery was fully charged. Thus you don't pull more amps at 6.0V than you did at 8.4V. It just doesn't make sense that a lower voltage will pump more current through the same electric resistance. You can see that is true if you look at any data logger graphs over a long duration. The peak watts goes down over time.
02-19-2013, 09:58 PM
#758
Getting off topic of the original thread post lol
02-20-2013, 03:36 AM
#759
Oh understandable. But what is the advantage of one over the other when comparing apples to apples to justify spending the extra 90 bucks. What does the 2.0 chassis upgrades do that the MIP kit doesn't. Do you get more parts in the kit for the MIP I saw a pic on Nitro house and it looks like it has springs, pistons, turnbuckles ect as well as everything for the chasse for the new weight distribution.
Where are the kits made? Does one of the companies make their products in America?
Again thank you for all the help and information.
Where are the kits made? Does one of the companies make their products in America?
Again thank you for all the help and information.
02-20-2013, 03:53 AM
#760
People do that calculation all the time and it is not a valid representation of what happens when your battery volts go down. When you are about to dump your truck simply isn't as fast as it was when you were running on the freshly charged battery. Everybody knows that.
So it follows, you are not pulling the same watts when you are about to dump as when the battery was fully charged. Thus you don't pull more amps at 6.0V than you did at 8.4V. It just doesn't make sense that a lower voltage will pump more current through the same electric resistance. You can see that is true if you look at any data logger graphs over a long duration. The peak watts goes down over time.
So it follows, you are not pulling the same watts when you are about to dump as when the battery was fully charged. Thus you don't pull more amps at 6.0V than you did at 8.4V. It just doesn't make sense that a lower voltage will pump more current through the same electric resistance. You can see that is true if you look at any data logger graphs over a long duration. The peak watts goes down over time.
Reistance/heat goes up as voltage drops, this isn't something to dispute, that is why people like HV systems so much. All Im getting at is if you want your packs to last be smart about the use, just a common sense approach. Last post on this sorry.
02-20-2013, 08:38 AM
#762
Oh understandable. But what is the advantage of one over the other when comparing apples to apples to justify spending the extra 90 bucks. What does the 2.0 chassis upgrades do that the MIP kit doesn't. Do you get more parts in the kit for the MIP I saw a pic on Nitro house and it looks like it has springs, pistons, turnbuckles ect as well as everything for the chasse for the new weight distribution.
Where are the kits made? Does one of the companies make their products in America?
Again thank you for all the help and information.
Where are the kits made? Does one of the companies make their products in America?
Again thank you for all the help and information.
He is SUPER fast. Way faster than me. He can drive and now that he is concentrating on 2 classes, he is getting even faster.
I would wait for the 2.0, for one the mip you lose droop adjustment i believe you get sometype of tuning blocks. Im very true to original brands thou, i have all losi brand stuff on my truck no off brand upgrades. Also, I haven't seen any of our local guys do that well with it yet.
02-20-2013, 12:15 PM
#765