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Old 05-27-2013, 11:00 AM   #3931
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After running for 10 minutes, 165 degrees is not too hot. Just remember that you have a fan on that thing and if it fails the motor temp will get quite a bit higher. That's why I don't run a fan unless I am practicing.
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Old 05-27-2013, 11:04 AM   #3932
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Btw, is this a stupid idea for practice runs? The Pro4HD 1850 as motor in this case.
Unless you run that way in the quals/mains, I wouldn't. The truck will drive differently. Practice the way you'll be racing the truck.
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Hey guys im getting 10 mins with the Pro 4 HD 4300 , with castle fan , Castle Mamba Pro sensored mode , and 2s Gen Ace 40c pack , temps on motor 165 , batts 108 , speedo 110 , really looking forward to a Tekin Gen 2 RX8 when they are available , also what do you guys think of the temp on the motor is 165 degrees to hot ? also im runing a 15 tooth gear thinking about going 14 maybe it would cool the motor down some , whats your opinion guys ? thanks
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165 is not hot. If you look a few pages back, randy said 200 is max and Caspers motor comes off after a 10 main at 180. I run a 14 tooth pinion and after a full pack (12 to 14 minutes) my motor is 180 to 190. I don't run any fans. Keep it under 200 and your good.
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165 is not hot. If you look a few pages back, randy said 200 is max and Caspers motor comes off after a 10 main at 180. I run a 14 tooth pinion and after a full pack (12 to 14 minutes) my motor is 180 to 190. I don't run any fans. Keep it under 200 and your good.
In the summer my motor gets that hot but typical indoor temps are around 150-160. Randy says anything under 200 is ok.
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I was reading in the Car Action mag there was a article on servos and what scale there for and it said the minium was 138oz of torque thats what my servo is at could i use more on my SCTE maybe maybe not. I seen some guys run the Hitec 7954SC servo which has 400oz of torque at 7.4v which i think its really to much lol.

I tryed out the inside hole on the Losi arm and seemed to make the truck turn better and smoother steering throw.

How can you tell really if you need more torque on your servo ?
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I'll take 138 oz in a 2wd buggy but not for one of these. With the wider, taller tires that are driven by the drive train you want to make sure you have enough snort to make it go where you tell it to. RC Car Action is not supposed to be read. It's only good for the pretty, glossy pictures LOL!!!
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I was reading in the Car Action mag there was a article on servos and what scale there for and it said the minium was 138oz of torque thats what my servo is at could i use more on my SCTE maybe maybe not. I seen some guys run the Hitec 7954SC servo which has 400oz of torque at 7.4v which i think its really to much lol.

I tryed out the inside hole on the Losi arm and seemed to make the truck turn better and smoother steering throw.

How can you tell really if you need more torque on your servo ?
I use a savox 1258tg witch has 166oz at 6.0v and .8 speed this is perfect for me fast enough and strong enough to get around any track I have run on 400oz is a little over kill IMO
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I'll take 138 oz in a 2wd buggy but not for one of these. With the wider, taller tires that are driven by the drive train you want to make sure you have enough snort to make it go where you tell it to. RC Car Action is not supposed to be read. It's only good for the pretty, glossy pictures LOL!!!




Well my truck will turn maybe not turn the sharpest but it will turn on them open outdoor track layouts. On tighter tracks its ok thats where i could use more torque on the servo. I do have my saver pretty tight though also and the inside hole on the Losi arm.
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I'll take 138 oz in a 2wd buggy but not for one of these. With the wider, taller tires that are driven by the drive train you want to make sure you have enough snort to make it go where you tell it to. RC Car Action is not supposed to be read. It's only good for the pretty, glossy pictures LOL!!!
haha, thats funny...dont forget the Pit tech section also!
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I just picked up a pro4 4600, been running the pro4 4000 for a while on 14 and 15T pinion. I run a fairly small tight track, what would you guys recommend for a pinion with the 4600 on this type of track? It's outdoor with hard packed, sandy loose conditions.
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I run a 14 on my 4600 but if your track is that tight you might want to try a 13 to start.
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I also run the Savox 1258. It is very fast and has plenty of torque! Took me a long time to get used to the faster servo going from a very slow futaba. I am finally getting to the point where I'm not turning too fast and running into the inside of the corner.
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Casper or Hacker, has the new setup been tested on an outdoor med to low traction dusty track yet? And any updates on using the 2 hole pistons for this setup?
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Casper or Hacker, has the new setup been tested on an outdoor med to low traction dusty track yet? And any updates on using the 2 hole pistons for this setup?
We ran at Pegasus this weekend and it was less traction than an indoor track but there was traction to be had. We don't test all of the setups we put out there on all types of tracks but usually what we come up with works well in a lot of places.

I cannot stress enough to put the entire setup on though. Casper had some of his droop off this weekend and was night and day different once fixed.
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We ran at Pegasus this weekend and it was less traction than an indoor track but there was traction to be had. We don't test all of the setups we put out there on all types of tracks but usually what we come up with works well in a lot of places.

I cannot stress enough to put the entire setup on though. Casper had some of his droop off this weekend and was night and day different once fixed.
Yeah setups are in the details. Trying piece parts don't give the full balance to the setup. Now if you put the whole thing on and still need adjustments then tweak on it but give the whole thing a try.
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