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Old 01-18-2013, 03:45 PM
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by wyd View Post
Oh just wait to when the dust settles and the real truth gets posted.
What makes you think the "real" truth will ever get posted? If it can't be said now for legal reasons, why will later be any different?

"I have something to tell you, but I can't." I hate that. If you can't say it, then don't say anything at all. Sit back and smile and watch everyone else duke it out.

Side question, how it is that the owner of a rival company that makes 17.5 motors is in charge of ROAR? Hmmm.......
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SAGISI View Post
@ KO Race he was running mod and did really well. I heard he beat cav @ WCRC club race in 4wd mod.
so why race 17.5 at nats?
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by wyd View Post
Sorry. I will be laughing down the road!!!!!!!!
So what you are implying is that the specs where changed after the certification?
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:59 PM
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I love the 17.5 class but hate it too...There is always a cheater amongst us..too many variations to go faster in stock..It sucks for the guys who dont know about timing and batteries or the fastest 17.5 on earth(d3)...run mod? hell no!! u still have to drive the car though..So the d3.5 is not that much of an advantage,depends on the layout
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JsK View Post
So what you are implying is that the specs where changed after the certification?
if you read the thread on the onroad section, that's exactly what it looks like. ROAR also said they told the manufacturer in question awhile ago so this whole "blindsided" thing they're playing isn't the truth either.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Cpt.America View Post
A total load of crap.

So they initially used one set of tools to measure ALL motors from a year ago, and they all passed (because its only SO accurate). So these other motor companies complain that the d3.5 is too good, so ROAR goes back a YEAR later, with a DIFFERENT tool to measure the wire, to find that it is just the tiniest bit too wide with THIS tool... and then clasify the motor as not legal? If that's the case, ROAR needs to remeasure EVERY motor that was originally deamed legal with it's original measuring equipment.

They keep using the phrase "in the spirit of keeping things fair", yet they measure the one motor with different tools, that measure differently or more accurately, than the others?... what a load.
From what I've read they did measure every motor again.
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Originally Posted by EricW View Post
From what I've read they did measure every motor again.
There is nothing in Roar`s statement that they did such .

My local track is standing behind Trinity and allowing them , which is good because I just bought another one .
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Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 View Post
so why race 17.5 at nats?
Because he didn't get picked up by ae until after nats. He's an up and coming young racer. Thats what you do when your young and getting faster. Win some big races in stock and move up. Btw, once you win stock at nats you're unable to race stock at nats for 5 years after.
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Ill buy some of these motors. Selling one pm me. Thanks
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Originally Posted by Matt Howard View Post
if you read the thread on the onroad section, that's exactly what it looks like. ROAR also said they told the manufacturer in question awhile ago so this whole "blindsided" thing they're playing isn't the truth either.

Assuming ROAR can also back up that they told not only Trinity, but everyone else as well..... Just because they say so don't make any of it true, on either side.
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:21 PM
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Glad I don't have to worry about running 17.5T. Still kinda lame they don't allow any tolerance/leeway for the 20AWG wire.
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Apparently I need to buy one of these. I thought my d3 was fast enough
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Originally Posted by aeRayls View Post
Because he didn't get picked up by ae until after nats. He's an up and coming young racer. Thats what you do when your young and getting faster. Win some big races in stock and move up. Btw, once you win stock at nats you're unable to race stock at nats for 5 years after.
Didnt know about the 5 year rule. He didnt have a chassis sponsor before nats?
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Originally Posted by RCmayor View Post
"Stock" died when 17.5 motors cost as much as "mod" motors. Stock used to be a $30 fixed timing bushinged motor approved by Roar.
Stock is far and away the most popular where I race. 4 mains in buggy on club nights where mod is usually 1.

Originally Posted by iTz Nicholas72 View Post
Glad I don't have to worry about running 17.5T. Still kinda lame they don't allow any tolerance/leeway for the 20AWG wire.
ROAR might not have a choice about this if Trinity brings them to court. By not specifying a tolerance a judge would almost definitely force ROAR to defer to whatever the accepted manufacturing spec of 20awg wire is, which, depending on where the accepted standard is pulled from could be far looser than a racing spec should be.
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