Go Back  R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric Off-Road
2wd front tires. Any differences? >

2wd front tires. Any differences?

2wd front tires. Any differences?

Reply

Old 01-13-2013, 04:33 PM
  #1  
Tech Champion
Thread Starter
iTrader: (94)
 
teeforb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: San Diego & Compton CA
Posts: 7,258
Trader Rating: 94 (100%+)
Default 2wd front tires. Any differences?

What front 2wd buggy tires are you guys are using for indoor clay tracks? Compound is no factor, just the pattern.

How do you guys compare proline scrubs vs suburbs
teeforb is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2013, 04:42 PM
  #2  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (47)
 
mxracer458's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: so cal
Posts: 3,983
Trader Rating: 47 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by teeforb View Post
What front 2wd buggy tires are you guys are using for indoor clay tracks? Compound is no factor, just the pattern.

How do you guys compare proline scrubs vs suburbs
I personally like the scrubs on by b4,but at sdrc everyone runs somthing different.
mxracer458 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2013, 04:43 PM
  #3  
Tech Champion
Thread Starter
iTrader: (94)
 
teeforb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: San Diego & Compton CA
Posts: 7,258
Trader Rating: 94 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by mxracer458 View Post
I personally like the scrubs on by b4,but at sdrc everyone runs somthing different.
What compound do u run at sdrc
teeforb is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2013, 04:46 PM
  #4  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (47)
 
mxracer458's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: so cal
Posts: 3,983
Trader Rating: 47 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by teeforb View Post
What compound do u run at sdrc
Mc sauced up
mxracer458 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2013, 05:11 PM
  #5  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (244)
 
2canSAM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: RIP Frosty, Best Dog Ever
Posts: 2,641
Trader Rating: 244 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by teeforb View Post
What front 2wd buggy tires are you guys are using for indoor clay tracks? Compound is no factor, just the pattern.

How do you guys compare proline scrubs vs suburbs
There is definitely a difference. I usually bounce between Barcodes and Groovy up front. The Barcodes are stuck and I use the Groovy if I want a little push. I have not tried the Scrubs yet, but hope to in the next few weeks.
2canSAM is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2013, 05:19 PM
  #6  
Super Moderator
iTrader: (52)
 
Cpt.America's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Washington State
Posts: 11,084
Trader Rating: 52 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by teeforb View Post
What front 2wd buggy tires are you guys are using for indoor clay tracks? Compound is no factor, just the pattern.

How do you guys compare proline scrubs vs suburbs
But compound IS a factor. If on clay, run the clay compound. But, it's not JUST clay that determines what works. Here is a funny example between the two tracks I run at, up here.

Track 1: Softer tackier clay, high traction.
Clay compound Gold Barcodes front and back are best
Clay compound suburbs don't work worth a dam

Track 2: More compact, harder clay, medium traction
Clay compound Gold Barcodes front and back are best
Clay compound suburbs work just about as good

It really depends on THAT track's specific clay. I always recommend running the same compound and tread front and back.
Cpt.America is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2013, 05:28 PM
  #7  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (15)
 
asc6000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Meridian Idaho
Posts: 3,401
Trader Rating: 15 (100%+)
Default

panther bobcats
asc6000 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2013, 05:43 PM
  #8  
Tech Champion
Thread Starter
iTrader: (94)
 
teeforb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: San Diego & Compton CA
Posts: 7,258
Trader Rating: 94 (100%+)
Default

I understand compound is a huge factor. Just wanted to focus on pattern. At sdrc, 80-90% run super soft.

Originally Posted by Cpt.America View Post
But compound IS a factor. If on clay, run the clay compound. But, it's not JUST clay that determines what works. Here is a funny example between the two tracks I run at, up here.

Track 1: Softer tackier clay, high traction.
Clay compound Gold Barcodes front and back are best
Clay compound suburbs don't work worth a dam

Track 2: More compact, harder clay, medium traction
Clay compound Gold Barcodes front and back are best
Clay compound suburbs work just about as good

It really depends on THAT track's specific clay. I always recommend running the same compound and tread front and back.
teeforb is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2013, 07:09 PM
  #9  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (203)
 
Trevor Williams's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Illinois
Posts: 8,325
Trader Rating: 203 (100%+)
Default

run exactly what the fast guys are running!
Trevor Williams is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2013, 07:38 PM
  #10  
Tech Apprentice
 
Chris Bing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: DC
Posts: 82
Default

Originally Posted by Trevor Williams View Post
run exactly what the fast guys are running!
This is good advise, until you begin to notice the differences in the different tires for yourself. The best way to do that is have a buddy switch those tires (one pair at a time and the same coumpound) after a few (or more) laps while you stay on the stand.

To answer your question, the best I can do is say; a ribbed from will have a little more steering coming into corners while you are braking/decelerating and the treaded wider from tires will hold the turn better while exiting corner under acceleration.
Chris Bing is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2013, 07:41 PM
  #11  
Tech Champion
Thread Starter
iTrader: (94)
 
teeforb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: San Diego & Compton CA
Posts: 7,258
Trader Rating: 94 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by Chris Bing View Post
This is good advise, until you begin to notice the differences in the different tires for yourself. The best way to do that is have a buddy switch those tires (one pair at a time and the same coumpound) after a few (or more) laps while you stay on the stand.

To answer your question, the best I can do is say; a ribbed from will have a little more steering coming into corners while you are braking/decelerating and the treaded wider from tires will hold the turn better while exiting corner under acceleration.
I'm pretty much dialed with the tires I run. Just curious of other people thoughts. Running what the fast guys are running wasn't exactly what I was looking for. I want to understand people's opinion on what pattern does what.
teeforb is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2013, 07:50 PM
  #12  
Tech Prophet
 
tc5 man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: levittown pa
Posts: 16,999
Default

Well i dont run a 2wd buggy just a 2wd SC but il tell you that Panther rattler clay compound tires front and rear work pretty good on wet clay and omg on carpet there much better ! I think if you use a soft compound in the Panther rattler tires they would work much better on a non grove/dry clay.

Do i run what the fast guys run not really only as a starting point really.
tc5 man is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2013, 08:34 PM
  #13  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (3)
 
aeRayls's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,257
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

For outdoor tracks I'd say 95% of the time just mount new tires and go. However, for almost any indoor clay style track it goes like this:

Most importantly the correct compound comes first.

Followed by the correct tread pattern

Lastly but very important is tread height!!

Typically here in any Midwest indoor track it always depends on the clay content of the dirt and how wet or dry it is. Starting from extreme high bite to dried out, these are the tires I have...

Slicks
Ghost pin
1/4 pin
Half pin
Scrubbed in
Brand new

For fronts out of the package scrubs are the lowest pin followed by losi taper pin and the barcode being the tallest. Now on extreme high bite a brand new barcode will push but take it down to half pin and they steer incredibly... This goes for all of them as well. When the track looses bite and gets a bit of dust, more pin will have more grip.

Also, just because every company has a "clay" compound they are not even close to the same. Some clay tires just will not work on certain dirt like others. Example, this year at my home track PL MC is just junk. But losi pink and JC gold have been stuck!

As for the fronts only it has been my experience that Scrubs steer really well but not fantastic but are very smooth. Taper pin is very aggressive. Barcode steers well decently smooth.
aeRayls is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2013, 09:07 PM
  #14  
Tech Champion
Thread Starter
iTrader: (94)
 
teeforb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: San Diego & Compton CA
Posts: 7,258
Trader Rating: 94 (100%+)
Default

Have you tried the front suburbs?

Originally Posted by aeRayls View Post
For outdoor tracks I'd say 95% of the time just mount new tires and go. However, for almost any indoor clay style track it goes like this:

Most importantly the correct compound comes first.

Followed by the correct tread pattern

Lastly but very important is tread height!!

Typically here in any Midwest indoor track it always depends on the clay content of the dirt and how wet or dry it is. Starting from extreme high bite to dried out, these are the tires I have...

Slicks
Ghost pin
1/4 pin
Half pin
Scrubbed in
Brand new

For fronts out of the package scrubs are the lowest pin followed by losi taper pin and the barcode being the tallest. Now on extreme high bite a brand new barcode will push but take it down to half pin and they steer incredibly... This goes for all of them as well. When the track looses bite and gets a bit of dust, more pin will have more grip.

Also, just because every company has a "clay" compound they are not even close to the same. Some clay tires just will not work on certain dirt like others. Example, this year at my home track PL MC is just junk. But losi pink and JC gold have been stuck!

As for the fronts only it has been my experience that Scrubs steer really well but not fantastic but are very smooth. Taper pin is very aggressive. Barcode steers well decently smooth.
teeforb is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2013, 09:15 PM
  #15  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (3)
 
aeRayls's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,257
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by teeforb View Post
Have you tried the front suburbs?
Personally no. Everyone that has pretty much agrees that they are very aggressive.
aeRayls is offline  
Reply With Quote

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service