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17.5 class. Rb6 or b4.2?

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Old 01-12-2013, 11:16 AM
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The RB6 is superior to the b4.x in every way. Yes, the parts are slightly more expensive (chassis not included), but the kyosho will need parts FAR FAR less frequent. I have AE drivers at my track who spend more on parts, who never break ANYthing on their B4s... then I do on my RB6, just from how fast their car wears.

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Old 01-12-2013, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by spunkysandoval View Post
Whats wrong with the dex210?
Pretty heavy for 17.5. I just put all of my electronics in the dex. I'll be rolling that til I get something else.
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b4.2 for 279 and the rbi is 400+ yea the associated been out for a while and there is some slop but that makes the car easier to drive.You dont have to buy any hop ups for the b4.2 either.I think the kyosho is a really awesome smooth car but price alone would make me stick to ae.
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Originally Posted by teeforb View Post
Pretty heavy for 17.5. I just put all of my electronics in the dex. I'll be rolling that til I get something else.
I just started running stock class in my DEX210. When I ran 13.5 I had the stock chassis in basic kit form, shorty, and standard servo. My weight was 1635. Switched to stock, put a DIMEC plastic chassis, low-pro servo, and now I'm at 1550. I'm sure I could swap out a couple parts for titanium or milled motor plate and get it to ROAR minimum, but its dialed right now, and nobody is pulling me.
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:17 PM
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RB6 without a doubt. Has great steering and traction. Box setup is great and there are a lot of nice guys in the RB6 thread that will help you with whatever you need (assuming you do not have local support). The price deters many from getting the car it seems, but if you break it down, I think it is completely justifiable. When I ran associated for about 3 months at the beginning of 2012, I ended up spending more on my b4's than my K cars. The B4 just became too sloppy, too quickly. The amount of $ I spent on replacement parts to keep the B4 in a race ready state very quickly added up to be much more than what I would have spent on a Kyosho buggy. Also, the B4 requires way more routine maintenance than the RB6 which can be a problem if your rc play time is limited. All in all, I would say they are both competitive cars, just get which ever one you like better. The RB6 is definitely not too heavy for 17.5 racing, check out the guys at WCRC in stock class. Top 3 is usually all Kyosho cars. Anyway, good luck!
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:22 PM
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by t8rtot View Post
You can't say you've never seen a poor looking B4 on the track before.
No, I can't say I've never seen a poorly setup B4, I can't think of anyone who can. It's been out there for 10 years and is owned by everyone from beginners to experts.

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EVERYONE that has test drive mine or any RB6 at the track has declared they want one.
Not me. I never said the RB6 was a poor car or even a less than good car. But it is too expensive and there is no such thing as "cost is no consideration".

I have seen a few of the better drivers at our track (Trackside, Milwaukee, Wi.) fall back from where they were with their previous cars (B4 and RB5sp) they're getting better but this is a couple of months into the season now. These are expert drivers who would be fast on the 1st pack with a B4 in every case.
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What about a nice user rb5 with big bores?
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Originally Posted by teeforb View Post
What about a nice user rb5 with big bores?
All of the modern cars are good and fast (I still run a Losi XXX and do very well with it against all the newer stuff). The RB5 can be a little confusing as it was run in a few different rear end configurations but I guess the XXX is no different.

We've drifted away from a standardized rear wheel and now have pin drive (old standard) and hex drive (not sure if there's more than one size/offset) so that may be worth consideration if you do 4wd now or later.
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Doesn't matter much, it's mostly about the driver, and the secret about tires.
I have a tlr 22, supposed to be a heavy car, turns out to be around 1630g with a long pack. around 1550g with a shorty.
And I put some very fast local guy's B4.1 onto the weight scale today, surprise surprise, 1650g with a long pack, and still really fast.
Our local track owner is a kyosho driver, his RB6 is actually 1490g.
All 17.5t blinky.
*We run a small indoor track, barely have a straight way, where for most drivers 17.5t can be faster than mod motor.

I'm just saying, I don't think the weight of RB6 is an issue, it's still the driver.
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Originally Posted by Davidka View Post
Not me. I never said the RB6 was a poor car or even a less than good car. But it is too expensive and there is no such thing as "cost is no consideration"..
You are short sighted if you are only looking at the cost of the kit on the shelf. Sure its more from the start, but over a year timeline, the RB6 will end up costing you less.
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Originally Posted by AndrewTom View Post
its 70% driver, 30% what your driving. don't worry about all this hype on which is better, you are better off putting more time into practicing and tuning.
A little % on how you wrench and maintain your car.
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Originally Posted by Cpt.America View Post
You are short sighted if you are only looking at the cost of the kit on the shelf. Sure its more from the start, but over a year timeline, the RB6 will end up costing you less.
Money aside go with your gut. Buy it new, make sure your track has parts if needed and practice a lot. They are all fun and they all cost money, I went with AE only because my track has some parts and I grew up with an RC10 so I went with what was familiar. A lot of guys locally have Losi and Durango but I just like AE so I went with it.
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Consider the yoko 2wd? Quality plastic at the prize of a b4. Parts availbility not a problem with amain stocking them. I really want one, but I have too many spares for my b4 to toss it away yet.
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Originally Posted by rcduder View Post
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Originally Posted by mxracer458 View Post
b4.2 for 279 and the rbi is 400+ yea the associated been out for a while and there is some slop but that makes the car easier to drive.You dont have to buy any hop ups for the b4.2 either.I think the kyosho is a really awesome smooth car but price alone would make me stick to ae.
Agreed, ridiculously expensive for a 2wd buggy
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