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Old 12-22-2012, 12:33 AM
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Are we allowed to use WD-40 at AMS? I've never heard of using it but I just got a can of it for x-mas and I'm out of Zip Grip, so if we can use it I'll give it a shot.
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Old 12-22-2012, 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by STRINGCHEESE View Post
Does anyone have a home made tire sauce recipe that mimics zip grip free? I know it is mostly mineral spirits. I'm looking for something similar to keep my tires from loading up on a clay track. Prices on buggy grip is just rediculous. Simple green works to make tires sticky, but they load up fast.
I have heard of some being made, but never gave it much thought. Actually I never really thought about what might be in some of the sauces out on the market.

I have used a bunch of different sauces, from old stuff you can't buy anymore to most of the newer ones. Each is just a bit different. I can only guess that would be because of the formula used to make the sauce.

What I did notice was that some sauces and tires, actually tire compounds react differently. From ballooning up or swelling from prolonged use to a higher wear rate. Also some foams didn't react well either.

So be ready for some trial and error. Good luck and hope it works out for ya. When you find the right mix that works, post it up. I'm sure planty of racers would love to have that kind of info.
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Would any kind of sauce help make barcodes indoor clay tires work worth a flip on an outdoor red clay track?
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Originally Posted by shagnat View Post
Would any kind of sauce help make barcodes indoor clay tires work worth a flip on an outdoor red clay track?
I assume you mean gold compound? It does help but the track has to be damp for them to work. If its dry blue groove then blue and green is your best bet.
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Old 12-22-2012, 09:08 AM
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Wax...I forgot. Wd40 is kerosene and wax. I will be working on my sauce tonight. I'm guessing I'll. Be able to come up with something for around $20 per gallon. I will post up my results as soon as I have them
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Easy & works

Distilled turpentine & oil of winter green
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I use sticky kicks and liquid gravity mostly. Either which way you can't lose. Neither have a horrible smell.
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Originally Posted by elex300 View Post
I like Buggy Grip green dot but sometimes I forget to sauce before im up so then I just hit them with motor spray. I have used WD40 in the past and it works too but I think the tires wear faster when using it.
You use green dot at FZ?

Not happy with the tire wear with WD, even thought the traction is good.

Not happy with the tire wear with auto belt dressing, worse than WD.

Not happy with the lack of traction with simple green after 4/5 laps.

Tried some (Trinity for foam tires) last night at HMIRCR (carpet) and the tires were hooked up on the painted plywood wall!!!!!!

Never tried motor spray!!!!
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Wax...I forgot. Wd40 is kerosene and wax. I will be working on my sauce tonight. I'm guessing I'll. Be able to come up with something for around $20 per gallon. I will post up my results as soon as I have them
i dont think wd40's formula is that simple. If i remember right the name stands for water displacement and the 40 is the 40th try they came up with the formula.
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Originally Posted by evolution03 View Post
i dont think wd40's formula is that simple. If i remember right the name stands for water displacement and the 40 is the 40th try they came up with the formula.
My father's a chem major. It does make a lot of sense. Kerosene does mix with water and evaporates slowly. It evaporates almost completely. It can mix with perfume and the wax is in a water suspension and used as a protectant after the water and kerosene evaporate...but its still just an educated guesstimate
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Doing my first testing tonight.

2 part WD-40
5 parts food grade wax (used to coat the inside of soda cans)
1 part iso alcohol (to aid in evaporation)

My goal is to have the wax keep the tires clean and grippy, using the WD-40 to open the rubber for the wax to adhere.

Another thought I'm having is using wax based motorcycle chain lube.

Wax is the base for these tests, I could be completely wrong thinking that wax will work at all. If it does work, it should make tires last longer than they would using harsh petrol based solvents that attack the rubber.
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nvm...that mixture just solidified into DL handcleaner
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changed to 3pt wd, 2pt alcohol, 1 pt wax. flashes off fast, going to test now...
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I would try Reino's Ragu .....mount'm,Sauce'm,Bag'm overnight ....clean with simple green at the track and there sticky soft again
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Originally Posted by darcness View Post
Are we allowed to use WD-40 at AMS? I've never heard of using it but I just got a can of it for x-mas and I'm out of Zip Grip, so if we can use it I'll give it a shot.
You got a can of WD40 for Christmas?
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