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Old 12-07-2014, 04:16 PM   #6001
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I have 4 of each but the dumb site i got them from did not send me the insert . They said there was a problem from xray and needed to be sent back. ( i call BS) they forgot to put them in my order. Then they sent me a bunch of gpm parts. So i told them and they asked me to ship them to the person who ordered them who lives in Italy. Crazy right ? So they divulge the guys addy to me so i can mail him his parts. Which i did for the guy cause we all know how we want our parts yesterday lol. But im uber pissed with this site . Tamiya asia.com plus I told a few members where i got the parts so they could order. I hope they have better luck than i did. So now i got gears but no inserts. Yay!!!!
Not to mention they shipped my parts 1 month after i ordered them and charged me 50 in shipping.
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Old 12-07-2014, 05:37 PM   #6002
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Dont 4get you need the insert for the big gear also on back order
are you saying you need that if your going to run the center diff, or do i just got to order the center diff and im good? also anyone have a date on the center diff? I have sent 2 emails with not a single response back from them. whats the deal xray ???
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are you saying you need that if your going to run the center diff, or do i just got to order the center diff and im good? also anyone have a date on the center diff? I have sent 2 emails with not a single response back from them. whats the deal xray ???
Are you planning on fitting the center diff to a XB4 14? If so, it's a fairly major task. You need different length center driveshafts and you'll need to move the slipper supports to accommodate the diff and bore holes in the chassis. Top chassis plates won't fit properly. This may interfere with battery placement, etc etc etc. Do-able, but not straightforward.

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Old 12-07-2014, 06:27 PM   #6004
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are you saying you need that if your going to run the center diff, or do i just got to order the center diff and im good? also anyone have a date on the center diff? I have sent 2 emails with not a single response back from them. whats the deal xray ???
No they are neexed for the steel ring gears in the fnt n rear diffs
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Old 12-07-2014, 08:25 PM   #6005
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Are you planning on fitting the center diff to a XB4 14? If so, it's a fairly major task. You need different length center driveshafts and you'll need to move the slipper supports to accommodate the diff and bore holes in the chassis. Top chassis plates won't fit properly. This may interfere with battery placement, etc etc etc. Do-able, but not straightforward.

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Actually I think the center diff will be the same length as the slipper.
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There are a few untalked about differences I want to mention, for those of you considering updating your 14.
There are no pockets of the brass weights in the rear.
The steering linkages sits 3mm higher on the 15.
the rear mounts are +2.. I didnt notice it until after I built it. No rear spacer plate that I noticed in the kit parts. (for under rear diff)

The 14 body will work, the chassis is a little wider in the back, but with some trimming in the rear AND the front, it looks fine. (I dont run body mounts)

The shorty battery strap seems to be to long. It rubs(a lot) on the rear shock to rotate it in and out.
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Old 12-07-2014, 11:50 PM   #6008
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There are a few untalked about differences I want to mention, for those of you considering updating your 14.
There are no pockets of the brass weights in the rear.
The steering linkages sits 3mm higher on the 15.
the rear mounts are +2.. I didnt notice it until after I built it. No rear spacer plate that I noticed in the kit parts. (for under rear diff)

The 14 body will work, the chassis is a little wider in the back, but with some trimming in the rear AND the front, it looks fine. (I dont run body mounts)

The shorty battery strap seems to be to long. It rubs(a lot) on the rear shock to rotate it in and out.
How wide is the 15 vs 14 in mm?
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Old 12-08-2014, 12:51 AM   #6009
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There are a few untalked about differences I want to mention, for those of you considering updating your 14.
There are no pockets of the brass weights in the rear.
The steering linkages sits 3mm higher on the 15.
the rear mounts are +2.. I didnt notice it until after I built it. No rear spacer plate that I noticed in the kit parts. (for under rear diff)

The 14 body will work, the chassis is a little wider in the back, but with some trimming in the rear AND the front, it looks fine. (I dont run body mounts)

The shorty battery strap seems to be to long. It rubs(a lot) on the rear shock to rotate it in and out.
No location for the brass weights because the batteries have been move further to the rear.
3mm higher steering rack? Did you take into account that the plastic from the tub is no longer there. That's why we have to use a spacer now.
Yeah I would have liked to see the spacer in the kit. But i'll live without it.
The batteries strap on the saddle configuration also rub. If you sit your car on a stand to change batteries, with full droop it doesn't rub/hit. Buy a car stand.


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How wide is the 15 vs 14 in mm?
If it is the chassis that you are talking about then the width where the servo sits is the same, the new battery position makes that part of the car about 5.50mm wider.
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No location for the brass weights because the batteries have been move further to the rear.
3mm higher steering rack? Did you take into account that the plastic from the tub is no longer there. That's why we have to use a spacer now.
Yeah I would have liked to see the spacer in the kit. But i'll live without it.
The batteries strap on the saddle configuration also rub. If you sit your car on a stand to change batteries, with full droop it doesn't rub/hit. Buy a car stand.




If it is the chassis that you are talking about then the width where the servo sits is the same, the new battery position makes that part of the car about 5.50mm wider.
Actually, I was pointing out a few differences between chassis that have NOT been discussed, for those who do not have one yet.
The car stand doesn't change the battery strap issue. It's not a huge issue, but it DOES happen. Thanks for your witty response though.
The steering DOES seem to sit higher, plastic chassis or not. As obvious by the need to cut the front steering section of the 14 body.
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so i just got a email from xray about the center diff. they said they are still working on the molds and plastics of the center diff???? WTF.. I mean why didnt you have those done before you released the new 2015 kit. I mean the center diff and shorty was the main reason why I spent the money and bought the 2015 when i had a like new 2014 sitting here at home. sorry for the rant, just think it was dumb by them to sell a kit without the options for it
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so i just got a email from xray about the center diff. they said they are still working on the molds and plastics of the center diff???? WTF.. I mean why didnt you have those done before you released the new 2015 kit. I mean the center diff and shorty was the main reason why I spent the money and bought the 2015 when i had a like new 2014 sitting here at home. sorry for the rant, just think it was dumb by them to sell a kit without the options for it
it took them a year to make alloy ring gears....
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so i just got a email from xray about the center diff. they said they are still working on the molds and plastics of the center diff???? WTF.. I mean why didnt you have those done before you released the new 2015 kit. I mean the center diff and shorty was the main reason why I spent the money and bought the 2015 when i had a like new 2014 sitting here at home. sorry for the rant, just think it was dumb by them to sell a kit without the options for it
A++++ Same as thats why i bought this kit i thought they have available center differential. And they made a plastic gear im frustrating i think i will sell my xray xb4 '15 and get D413 for some reason better center differential if you running clay.
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it took them a year to make alloy ring gears....
Looks like I am back to putting in the 413 center gear diff. Will have that done this week. Not sure if I am going to make the drive pin holes larger on the 413 or put the xray ones on with a spacer.


I forgot to mention on the '15 center slipper, as I just pulled it out, you CAN replace the bearings now without taking it apart..
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Actually, I was pointing out a few differences between chassis that have NOT been discussed, for those who do not have one yet.
The car stand doesn't change the battery strap issue. It's not a huge issue, but it DOES happen. Thanks for your witty response though.
The steering DOES seem to sit higher, plastic chassis or not. As obvious by the need to cut the front steering section of the 14 body.
Hmm i don't understand what u say, about the battery strap can u take a pic ore make a vid of it?

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