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cutting42 10-06-2014 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by atoddvr6 (Post 13577563)
That's good to hear. So my next question is how often would you guess that I would need to replace the balls and rings?

It sort of depends how aggressive you are and how much jumping and bashing you are planning to do. Jumping and gassing it hard on the landing is brutal on a ball diff so you can trash it in one day!

I race once a week, and rebuild when the ball diff gets a bit notchy say about every 2-3 months or so. Build it fairly tight, break it is properly and you should be fine.

cutting42 10-06-2014 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by atoddvr6 (Post 13577563)
The B44 I ordered was supposed to be a B44.1 so I asked for a refund even though I new the listing said no refunds. The guy offered me $20 to go towards parts so that I can use the B44.2 chassis and said he was told that's what it was. I know, not my problem. He has 100% feedback and answered all my pre-sale questions right away so I want to give him the benefit of the doubt. But at the same time I want more than $20! So I have some choices to choose from (in no particular order):

A: Sell the B44 complete chassis with spare parts. Sell the B44.2 bare chassis with a few spare parts. Then buy what I want.

B: Sell the B44. Keep the 44.2 chassis and buy all the parts I need to complete it.

C: Take as much off the B44 chassis as I can and move it over to the 44.2 chassis then sell what I can't use.

A seems a little risky since I may not make enough to buy what I want. B seems like it may be too much trouble to find and buy all the parts I need. And C would get me a running car sooner. Either way, I feel like I should try to get as much from this guy as I can. I know it's a little heavy for a Monday. Sorry about that!:D

A fair bit of work and expense getting it to B44.2 spec and there will be a ton of good one's for sale with the new B44.3 available in the next week or so.

If you are just messing about, take the money offered, sell the B44.2 bits and drive the B44, still a good car to learn and bash with.

If you get the bug and want to upgrade, sell the B44 as a rolling chassis and buy a full spec B44.2 second hand.

atoddvr6 10-06-2014 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by cutting42 (Post 13577739)
A fair bit of work and expense getting it to B44.2 spec and there will be a ton of good one's for sale with the new B44.3 available in the next week or so.

If you are just messing about, take the money offered, sell the B44.2 bits and drive the B44, still a good car to learn and bash with.

If you get the bug and want to upgrade, sell the B44 as a rolling chassis and buy a full spec B44.2 second hand.

Very true. I am pretty much ruling option B out. I just went through and calculated how much it would be to move everything over from the 44 to the 44.2 and it would cost a minimum of $130! So I am throwing out option C as well. Ha.

I am probably going to sell everything and then look for either a 44.1 or a 44.2 in good shape. So you could say I have the bug now. Ha.

Thanks for all the great advice!

lee111m 10-07-2014 03:33 PM

Hey, is the ball diff rebuild for the car from the tc3 and do i need to get diff balls with it?

loosenut 10-09-2014 11:36 PM

Hey guys, I just finished building my 44.2. Just need to get my electronics in there now and I'm good to go. However, as I am playing around with the car - turning the rear tires, I've noticed that the rear CVAs want to pull my rear tires up as I'm turning them. Not sure how to describe it but it doesn't want to turn if the tires are drooped down at an angle. So if I turn the rear tires, the entire arm and tire will rise to parallel with the ground and it the turn goes thru. My fronts aren't like this. Did I do something wrong with the CVA assembly?

Thanks.

Pro10noob 10-10-2014 01:10 AM

Did you put max shock travel collars in the shock??
It sounds like they are to long and that is why the CVA's are binding on max shock travel.

Regards Roy

loosenut 10-10-2014 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by Pro10noob (Post 13586174)
Did you put max shock travel collars in the shock??
It sounds like they are to long and that is why the CVA's are binding on max shock travel.

Regards Roy

Umm, i don't think I have my rear shocks set too tight. Yes my rear CVA's are binding in the cup (at full droop ||/--\||) and in order to unbind itself, lifts my rear arms/tires up.

I would think that the car ought to be able to turn freely even with the shocks at full travel (i.e., what happens if the car is jumping in teh air) - with out them CVAs binding? Please help?

G

Jmuck69 10-10-2014 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by lee111m (Post 13580995)
Hey, is the ball diff rebuild for the car from the tc3 and do i need to get diff balls with it?

It comes with the diff balls and thrust balls and rings. I highly recommend ceramic thrust bearing from AVID and ceramic diff balls. allows you to go longer between rebuilds.

dbowen 10-10-2014 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by loosenut (Post 13586374)
Umm, i don't think I have my rear shocks set too tight. Yes my rear CVA's are binding in the cup (at full droop ||/--\||) and in order to unbind itself, lifts my rear arms/tires up.

I would think that the car ought to be able to turn freely even with the shocks at full travel (i.e., what happens if the car is jumping in teh air) - with out them CVAs binding? Please help?

G

Make sure you have 1 to 2 limiters in the rear and that your stroke is 27mm and make sure you have 3 axle shims between the axle and the inside of the hub and check your diff shimming and if you are running it with saddles make sure there is 6 shims on the right and 3 on the left. other than that I am stumped as well.

loosenut 10-10-2014 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by dbowen (Post 13586415)
Make sure you have 1 to 2 limiters in the rear and that your stroke is 27mm and make sure you have 3 axle shims between the axle and the inside of the hub and check your diff shimming and if you are running it with saddles make sure there is 6 shims on the right and 3 on the left. other than that I am stumped as well.

Thanks -- I will check my setup and report back...=) I did everything per the instruction. I do have 6/3 shim setup. 3 shims on the axle.

I don't recall the instruction covering shock limiters? Where do they go...

G

fq06 10-10-2014 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by loosenut (Post 13586424)
Thanks -- I will check my setup and report back...=) I did everything per the instruction. I do have 6/3 shim setup. 3 shims on the axle.

I don't recall the instruction covering shock limiters? Where do they go...

G

That is most likely the issue. Little plastic washers that go inside the shocks under the piston.

loosenut 10-10-2014 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by fq06 (Post 13586443)
That is most likely the issue. Little plastic washers that go inside the shocks under the piston.

Lol I was afraid that you would say that. Sigh...

I measured my shock shaft travel, it's at 27mm (from the bottom shock cap to say the top of the spring cup). I do have one nylon spacer (.030 - 4187) under the piston. Visually, the CVA's at full droop sits at around 1 mm from the edge of the cup so it's not like it's about the pop out. But for some reason, when I run the tires, the CVA's wanna bind in teh cup (on both sides) and thus lifting my arms up to unbind itself. Weird, I've never had this type of problems before with my previous cars - granted I've been out of the hobby for a LONG time.

G

fq06 10-10-2014 08:44 AM

Do you have the stock setup shock mount locations? If not, that can vary the amount of spacers needed.

I can't remember if the manual says 1 or 2 in the rear but I think its 2.
If that's the case, you are pulling the shocks apart to add the 2nd spacer.

Those shocks are made for the stadium truck and sct too so they are a little too long for the buggy without proper travel restriction.

lee111m 10-10-2014 08:48 AM

On the topic of shocks. Does anyone know if the b5 caps will fit? I'll try it out if no one knows when I get home

loosenut 10-10-2014 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by fq06 (Post 13586493)
Do you have the stock setup shock mount locations? If not, that can vary the amount of spacers needed.

I can't remember if the manual says 1 or 2 in the rear but I think its 2.
If that's the case, you are pulling the shocks apart to add the 2nd spacer.

Those shocks are made for the stadium truck and sct too so they are a little too long for the buggy without proper travel restriction.

So I took apart everything. And discovered my CVAs don't turn when at an angle - and THAT's the reason why it's lifting my arms up because it'll want to turn when it's straight....

So now I just have to figure out what I did wrong with the CVAs. Not sure how I can mess up on it because the assembly is not that complex....

G


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