Kyosho Ultima RB6 & RB6.6 Car Thread
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#5492
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Is anyone running the 521-1 arms with narrow suspension hangers?
I tried the arms today and ended up with a super high ride height when using the long eyelets. I was able to get 23mm of ride height using the medium eye lets. I noticed tebos setup uses a shock length of 27mn with the short eyelets, but I was unable to get that without the shock shaft hitting the pivot balls and binding it all up. Not sure what I'm doing wrong here. Also is everyone just shimming the rear hubs in the middle with those arms?
The setup I was running was based off of Brandon Collins setup was awesome for stock buggy but was terrible for mod. Not enough steering or traction.
I tried the arms today and ended up with a super high ride height when using the long eyelets. I was able to get 23mm of ride height using the medium eye lets. I noticed tebos setup uses a shock length of 27mn with the short eyelets, but I was unable to get that without the shock shaft hitting the pivot balls and binding it all up. Not sure what I'm doing wrong here. Also is everyone just shimming the rear hubs in the middle with those arms?
The setup I was running was based off of Brandon Collins setup was awesome for stock buggy but was terrible for mod. Not enough steering or traction.
#5493
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I tried the arms today and ended up with a super high ride height when using the long eyelets. I was able to get 23mm of ride height using the medium eye lets. I noticed tebos setup uses a shock length of 27mn with the short eyelets, but I was unable to get that without the shock shaft hitting the pivot balls and binding it all up. Not sure what I'm doing wrong here.
#5494
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Is anyone running the 521-1 arms with narrow suspension hangers?
I tried the arms today and ended up with a super high ride height when using the long eyelets. I was able to get 23mm of ride height using the medium eye lets. I noticed tebos setup uses a shock length of 27mn with the short eyelets, but I was unable to get that without the shock shaft hitting the pivot balls and binding it all up. Not sure what I'm doing wrong here. Also is everyone just shimming the rear hubs in the middle with those arms?
The setup I was running was based off of Brandon Collins setup was awesome for stock buggy but was terrible for mod. Not enough steering or traction.
I tried the arms today and ended up with a super high ride height when using the long eyelets. I was able to get 23mm of ride height using the medium eye lets. I noticed tebos setup uses a shock length of 27mn with the short eyelets, but I was unable to get that without the shock shaft hitting the pivot balls and binding it all up. Not sure what I'm doing wrong here. Also is everyone just shimming the rear hubs in the middle with those arms?
The setup I was running was based off of Brandon Collins setup was awesome for stock buggy but was terrible for mod. Not enough steering or traction.
I've been running the hubs spaced forward but need to try them in the middle and all the way back, although the car feels awesome as is.
Try the Cody Turner setup but with the 521-1 arms, wide hangers, and 2nd hole from the inside for the top of the rear shocks. That's what I'm running and the car is dialed for mod. Lots of rear bite, car is very composed when you push it hard. It also seems very balanced front to rear, can't ask for much more than that.
#5496
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I find it strange that you are using two different kinds of tires front and back. Not only are you using very different side bite, but also different compounds. And maybe I am just ignorant to it as the tracks I run at here, we all run the same tire front and back, almost all the time.... but it would seem to ME, that you would first and foremost want to tune and set the car up so that it handles the way you want it to with matching tires... and you would only use miss-matched tires to address a setup issue you can't fix otherwise.
Is that what most guys at your track run? burbs back, scrubs front? Tracks and clay are SO different!!... scrubs absolutely don't work in the slightest at my tracks. (unless you want to scrub speed!)
Im glad you got the tires set... that is always job #1 before you worry about finer level adjustments on setup. Not only do you need the proper tires, but you need to get a set broken in properly first, and THEN take note of how the car drives... THEN work on those finer level changes on setup.
Traction is up way at my track, and with the increased rear traction, I am able to dial back in more steering. 30/ -4 is going to be the most aggressive steering you can get. 30 kick-up will give the best off-throttle forward weight transfer, and the low overall caster will give the most infield steering. I am running this specifically because my current layout has no highspeed steering sections where more caster is used... it's all slower speed turns.
But like always, I am still playing and fudging and learning where the car likes to be. I don't think I will keep 30/ -4 for long before changing again... track conditions (right now)... are changing too fast at my track to really nail something down. (kind of frustrating). We have another track change starting this coming weekend too, so its back to square 1. Can't finalize a setup until the clay starts to become consistent.... BUT, I am glad we are doing a track build for a change as our current layout is almost no fun at all.
Is that what most guys at your track run? burbs back, scrubs front? Tracks and clay are SO different!!... scrubs absolutely don't work in the slightest at my tracks. (unless you want to scrub speed!)
Im glad you got the tires set... that is always job #1 before you worry about finer level adjustments on setup. Not only do you need the proper tires, but you need to get a set broken in properly first, and THEN take note of how the car drives... THEN work on those finer level changes on setup.
Traction is up way at my track, and with the increased rear traction, I am able to dial back in more steering. 30/ -4 is going to be the most aggressive steering you can get. 30 kick-up will give the best off-throttle forward weight transfer, and the low overall caster will give the most infield steering. I am running this specifically because my current layout has no highspeed steering sections where more caster is used... it's all slower speed turns.
But like always, I am still playing and fudging and learning where the car likes to be. I don't think I will keep 30/ -4 for long before changing again... track conditions (right now)... are changing too fast at my track to really nail something down. (kind of frustrating). We have another track change starting this coming weekend too, so its back to square 1. Can't finalize a setup until the clay starts to become consistent.... BUT, I am glad we are doing a track build for a change as our current layout is almost no fun at all.
#5497
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Is anyone running the 521-1 arms with narrow suspension hangers?
I tried the arms today and ended up with a super high ride height when using the long eyelets. I was able to get 23mm of ride height using the medium eye lets. I noticed tebos setup uses a shock length of 27mn with the short eyelets, but I was unable to get that without the shock shaft hitting the pivot balls and binding it all up. Not sure what I'm doing wrong here. Also is everyone just shimming the rear hubs in the middle with those arms?
The setup I was running was based off of Brandon Collins setup was awesome for stock buggy but was terrible for mod. Not enough steering or traction.
I tried the arms today and ended up with a super high ride height when using the long eyelets. I was able to get 23mm of ride height using the medium eye lets. I noticed tebos setup uses a shock length of 27mn with the short eyelets, but I was unable to get that without the shock shaft hitting the pivot balls and binding it all up. Not sure what I'm doing wrong here. Also is everyone just shimming the rear hubs in the middle with those arms?
The setup I was running was based off of Brandon Collins setup was awesome for stock buggy but was terrible for mod. Not enough steering or traction.
#5499
yeah! i haven't run the ions yet on my track, but a tire with a nice low pin like that, looks good. Side bite seems (looks) like it might be inbetween a bar code and a suburb... but not sure. Also not sure about the compound. The only downside, is they are expensive!
#5500
I hear they have more side bite and that seems to be where the races are won... In corners in the infield.
I am looking for a little more steering, runnin the B.Collins setup and like it a lot. Should I try dropping down to 25* for the front block and maybe 2 or 4* castor? I am running 30* now, will I get more by going down to maybe 29 or 27 or 25*?
I am looking for a little more steering, runnin the B.Collins setup and like it a lot. Should I try dropping down to 25* for the front block and maybe 2 or 4* castor? I am running 30* now, will I get more by going down to maybe 29 or 27 or 25*?
#5501
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#5502
I wonder why so little droop on the Tebo set up?
#5503
I hear they have more side bite and that seems to be where the races are won... In corners in the infield.
I am looking for a little more steering, runnin the B.Collins setup and like it a lot. Should I try dropping down to 25* for the front block and maybe 2 or 4* castor? I am running 30* now, will I get more by going down to maybe 29 or 27 or 25*?
I am looking for a little more steering, runnin the B.Collins setup and like it a lot. Should I try dropping down to 25* for the front block and maybe 2 or 4* castor? I am running 30* now, will I get more by going down to maybe 29 or 27 or 25*?
#5505
Thanks Brandon. I have gone back to reds at the moment already and it felt good. This car has so much traction, I feel like I gave none up goin from golds to reds. I will give the castor change a shot. Thanks guys
Edit. Haven't tried laying shocks down yet, just because nobody does it like you said. Probably worth a try tho
Edit. Haven't tried laying shocks down yet, just because nobody does it like you said. Probably worth a try tho