Kyosho Ultima RB6 & RB6.6 Car Thread
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Front camber links are as short as they go already.
Rear camber links I can do.
So raise the outer and lower the inner and shorter for increased side bite?
I've read both ways. I downloaded the AE cheat sheet and it's very misleading on this adjustment....
98% of setup sheets I've seen only use the inner hole on the arm but I'm open to try anything. Anything but the inner hole is for carpet only when looking at setup sheets.
Thanks for the reply! I really hope I can make a noticeable difference.
I've been looking at other platforms. Closely. So many things line up across multiple platforms. Wheelbase. Front kick-up. Front caster angle. Rear toe. Antisquat. Battery placement. Placement of the electronics. Placement of the servo and the layout of the steering rack. There are also a lot of variables that are unknown unless you actually have one and can measure them. These are what makes them different. Chassis thickness and how it flexes is a big one. Hence cutting off the KYO waterfall compared to the AE twisty flex waterfall. AE actually made a running production change because the chassis was so lightweight people were bending the chassis consistently. Side guard stiffness. It goes on and on...
One thing I do take note of is how small and light KYO is on the rear hubs and front carriers compared to others. AE has huge rear hubs and bearings and huge front C blocks and spindle carriers. This is unsprung weight. I've read about KYO guys adding clay to the wheels just to increase unsprung weight for traction. Just like putting weights inside a tractor wheel. Traction. To me this is the missing link. Unsprung weight is not the enemy. Unsprung weight is traction.
Thoughts?
Rear camber links I can do.
So raise the outer and lower the inner and shorter for increased side bite?
I've read both ways. I downloaded the AE cheat sheet and it's very misleading on this adjustment....
98% of setup sheets I've seen only use the inner hole on the arm but I'm open to try anything. Anything but the inner hole is for carpet only when looking at setup sheets.
Thanks for the reply! I really hope I can make a noticeable difference.
I've been looking at other platforms. Closely. So many things line up across multiple platforms. Wheelbase. Front kick-up. Front caster angle. Rear toe. Antisquat. Battery placement. Placement of the electronics. Placement of the servo and the layout of the steering rack. There are also a lot of variables that are unknown unless you actually have one and can measure them. These are what makes them different. Chassis thickness and how it flexes is a big one. Hence cutting off the KYO waterfall compared to the AE twisty flex waterfall. AE actually made a running production change because the chassis was so lightweight people were bending the chassis consistently. Side guard stiffness. It goes on and on...
One thing I do take note of is how small and light KYO is on the rear hubs and front carriers compared to others. AE has huge rear hubs and bearings and huge front C blocks and spindle carriers. This is unsprung weight. I've read about KYO guys adding clay to the wheels just to increase unsprung weight for traction. Just like putting weights inside a tractor wheel. Traction. To me this is the missing link. Unsprung weight is not the enemy. Unsprung weight is traction.
Thoughts?
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Whoever comes up with a suspension design that works everywhere all the time is going to be the richest person ever!
@Paul, you always have to give something if the car is set up well. More unsprung weight isn't the answer, the answer is keeping the tire well positioned and loaded most of the time. I've said this countless times, the front to rear wheel rate on 2wd buggies is backwards, the front is too stiff compared to the rear. To test this try moving the front shocks in on the lower arm and the rear shocks out on the lower arm and see if improves your situation(my experience tells me it's your issue).
hey guys, please see the image below, and im sorry if someone has already asked this.
Im somewhat messing around here, and lowering my weight, but, the back adapter pieces that are gone on my picture, and its just basically the motor and the block underneath - di you this that will work fine? the pieces i literally took off where two bracks, the front one with two posts, and the rear stuff by the motor the battery tucks into.
The reason i wanted to try this, is because im trying to do double sided tape on the battery and put it in a further back location.
thanks
Im somewhat messing around here, and lowering my weight, but, the back adapter pieces that are gone on my picture, and its just basically the motor and the block underneath - di you this that will work fine? the pieces i literally took off where two bracks, the front one with two posts, and the rear stuff by the motor the battery tucks into.
The reason i wanted to try this, is because im trying to do double sided tape on the battery and put it in a further back location.
thanks
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Anyway I'm testing it. 10 grams bolted to the hub.
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Are you struggling that much for traction? Indoor? Consider a softer tire? Sometimes the LD tranny is not for everyone or everyone’s style of track/surface....
hope someone can help me out here on the photo above.... thanks
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I don't know. I just don't know. It's just really obvious to me that AE made their unsprung weight heavier on purpose. Their hubs and carriers are way bigger than they need to be. I feel like it's dependant on the tire. A balance. More unsprung will force the tire to absorb the bump rather than deflect? I think of a heavy tire versus a light tire rolling on a track. Which one will bounce off the bumps and which one will absorb them?
Anyway I'm testing it. 10 grams bolted to the hub.
Anyway I'm testing it. 10 grams bolted to the hub.
any other secrets or where to go to find the secrets?!? we are 2 weeks new to 1/10 rb.6. love it stock and i know its got so much more.
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awesome wanted to see what you guys thought.. yes i heard about the more flex. so good to hear that again immediately in a response. thanks!
any other secrets or where to go to find the secrets?!? we are 2 weeks new to 1/10 rb.6. love it stock and i know its got so much more.
any other secrets or where to go to find the secrets?!? we are 2 weeks new to 1/10 rb.6. love it stock and i know its got so much more.
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is there anyone here running the yokomo gullwing front arms on the 6.6? I think the b6 arms work also but the yokomo arms are stronger. if anyone is running them can someone share pics or a link ? thanks
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Most recent pics of Tebo’s car he is running the plastic bleeder caps. I thought I was the only one running them. I like the caps but compared to yokes and ae, the kyosho threads are too fine and easy to cross thread.
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I saw this too on his and on Rodgers car. Wonder why they switched??
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hey guys, please see the image below, and im sorry if someone has already asked this.
Im somewhat messing around here, and lowering my weight, but, the back adapter pieces that are gone on my picture, and its just basically the motor and the block underneath - di you this that will work fine? the pieces i literally took off where two bracks, the front one with two posts, and the rear stuff by the motor the battery tucks into.
The reason i wanted to try this, is because im trying to do double sided tape on the battery and put it in a further back location.
thanks
Im somewhat messing around here, and lowering my weight, but, the back adapter pieces that are gone on my picture, and its just basically the motor and the block underneath - di you this that will work fine? the pieces i literally took off where two bracks, the front one with two posts, and the rear stuff by the motor the battery tucks into.
The reason i wanted to try this, is because im trying to do double sided tape on the battery and put it in a further back location.
thanks
Also using the rear front brass hanger
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