Best tires for track conditions?
07-30-2012, 09:15 AM
#1
Best tires for track conditions?
So I tried looking but couldn't find anything. I'm wondering if somone's compiled a chart that shows what tread type works on what track surface the best.
I managed to make it out to the more casual track for the first time yesterday. It's dry and hard with loose dirt and sandy patches. The stock tires on my XXX-SCT do awesome on grass and asphalt, but they weren't sticking that well at the track. Any good suggestions for tires?
I managed to make it out to the more casual track for the first time yesterday. It's dry and hard with loose dirt and sandy patches. The stock tires on my XXX-SCT do awesome on grass and asphalt, but they weren't sticking that well at the track. Any good suggestions for tires?
07-30-2012, 09:22 AM
#2
Most tire manufacturers have these kinds of charts on their website.
http://www.jconcepts.net/files/JConcepts_Tire_Guide.pdf
http://www.prolineracing.com/images/...poundChart.pdf
It can be tuned more finely depending on the specific track you're running. I'm still experimenting myself, so maybe describe your track conditions and people can give tips. Also, asking the fast locals or track manager is a good idea, generally these people know from experience or word of mouth which tires work at their track.
Where I run it's a hard surface than can get dusty, it's generally not watered because if you stay in the line it doesn't need to be. I'm finding that medium to smaller pin tires work for me. This weekend I used the Proline Recoil in soft compound and found them to be s good tire for me, sans wear due to the hard surface.
http://www.jconcepts.net/files/JConcepts_Tire_Guide.pdf
http://www.prolineracing.com/images/...poundChart.pdf
It can be tuned more finely depending on the specific track you're running. I'm still experimenting myself, so maybe describe your track conditions and people can give tips. Also, asking the fast locals or track manager is a good idea, generally these people know from experience or word of mouth which tires work at their track.
Where I run it's a hard surface than can get dusty, it's generally not watered because if you stay in the line it doesn't need to be. I'm finding that medium to smaller pin tires work for me. This weekend I used the Proline Recoil in soft compound and found them to be s good tire for me, sans wear due to the hard surface.
07-30-2012, 03:29 PM
#3
Another set of charts here;
http://www.raceaka.com/Tire-Applicat...s_ep_45-1.html
Every so often you will find a track surface, even if its your regular track (on occasion), that is just about impossible to find a good tire for.
It sounds like you have a top surface that releases dust as you drive on it, and it is what looks almost like dry hard pack dirt or clay yeah? Somewhat abrasive? Looks dry/hard/abrasive in the high traffic lines and dust and silt accumulate on the outside of the lanes/turns?
If so I like to use tires that have a mini pin on top of a block. Like a 2 stage/step mini pin. Something along the lines of calibers, subcultures, city blocks. If it is very abrasive you should look at medium and hard compound tires, especially if it is warm/hot outside. I find these work well because they give you what you need in the high traffic spots, but if you need to move to another part of the lane (in the loose stuff), it wont throw you off that bad and still be controllable. These tires seem to still work ok if the track is slightly damp. You may need a softer compound to contend with that though. I dont really want to call these types step pins as i have used those forever (on looser/wet tracks) and they have larger lugs. (see losi step pin, this is not what i mean here).
If the track is completely wet. You will probably need another tire altogether. Probly something with larger lugs and a softer compound still.
If it is similar but you dont have all that much dust, something like a holeshot, double dees, gridiron will work well.
(* note)
If track is a no dust, semi moist, hard packed clay, look at some of the clay treads out. Barcodes, suburbs, wishbones.
When trying out new tires I like to suggest a medium compound. Maybe a hard compound if you practice a lot. If they seem to work pretty well but you need a little more grip, simply go to one stage softer compound and you should be set. If they wear out really fast, go to a harder compound.
Unfortunately after all that, i would still suggest asking some local track guys and see what works well for them. What works great for them may not be the best for you but it will give you some direction. Would be nice if somebody had a sweet writeup going in depth on tires vs looking at manufacture application charts. Ive seen them way off before lol. It may save some newer racers some $$
*AKA enduros fall into this realm inbetween, but seem to be a good all around tire, for me at least.
http://www.raceaka.com/Tire-Applicat...s_ep_45-1.html
Every so often you will find a track surface, even if its your regular track (on occasion), that is just about impossible to find a good tire for.
It sounds like you have a top surface that releases dust as you drive on it, and it is what looks almost like dry hard pack dirt or clay yeah? Somewhat abrasive? Looks dry/hard/abrasive in the high traffic lines and dust and silt accumulate on the outside of the lanes/turns?
If so I like to use tires that have a mini pin on top of a block. Like a 2 stage/step mini pin. Something along the lines of calibers, subcultures, city blocks. If it is very abrasive you should look at medium and hard compound tires, especially if it is warm/hot outside. I find these work well because they give you what you need in the high traffic spots, but if you need to move to another part of the lane (in the loose stuff), it wont throw you off that bad and still be controllable. These tires seem to still work ok if the track is slightly damp. You may need a softer compound to contend with that though. I dont really want to call these types step pins as i have used those forever (on looser/wet tracks) and they have larger lugs. (see losi step pin, this is not what i mean here).
If the track is completely wet. You will probably need another tire altogether. Probly something with larger lugs and a softer compound still.
If it is similar but you dont have all that much dust, something like a holeshot, double dees, gridiron will work well.
(* note)
If track is a no dust, semi moist, hard packed clay, look at some of the clay treads out. Barcodes, suburbs, wishbones.
When trying out new tires I like to suggest a medium compound. Maybe a hard compound if you practice a lot. If they seem to work pretty well but you need a little more grip, simply go to one stage softer compound and you should be set. If they wear out really fast, go to a harder compound.
Unfortunately after all that, i would still suggest asking some local track guys and see what works well for them. What works great for them may not be the best for you but it will give you some direction. Would be nice if somebody had a sweet writeup going in depth on tires vs looking at manufacture application charts. Ive seen them way off before lol. It may save some newer racers some $$
*AKA enduros fall into this realm inbetween, but seem to be a good all around tire, for me at least.
07-30-2012, 04:43 PM
#4
So I tried looking but couldn't find anything. I'm wondering if somone's compiled a chart that shows what tread type works on what track surface the best.
I managed to make it out to the more casual track for the first time yesterday. It's dry and hard with loose dirt and sandy patches. The stock tires on my XXX-SCT do awesome on grass and asphalt, but they weren't sticking that well at the track. Any good suggestions for tires?
I managed to make it out to the more casual track for the first time yesterday. It's dry and hard with loose dirt and sandy patches. The stock tires on my XXX-SCT do awesome on grass and asphalt, but they weren't sticking that well at the track. Any good suggestions for tires?
I run Beams at both tracks I go to but
3Ds, Barcodes v1 and v2, Double Dees, Megabites all work
07-30-2012, 05:07 PM
#5
You hit the nail on the head regarding the track. That particular track is at a MX/BMX park, and they have a larger Nitro track for 1/5 scale and slightly lower, and then there's a smaller SC course and a Rock Crawling set-up. It's mostly bashers, not a lot of organized racing, that's at the other track on the other side of the city, and I'll eventually have a chance to get up there.
My experience driving RC cars isn't extensive so I know that as I learn to drive I'll pick up the feel of it all. I just like to have a basis of where to start. So thanks for the info guys.
My experience driving RC cars isn't extensive so I know that as I learn to drive I'll pick up the feel of it all. I just like to have a basis of where to start. So thanks for the info guys.
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