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Good motors to replace velineon with in 4x4 besides Castle 1410 4 pole?

Old 05-28-2012, 10:06 AM
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Just bought a used slash 4x4. I'm going to put some larger 2.8 wheels on it and run 2s or 3s. 3s is out of the question with VXL-3S and larger wheels. Even the VXL-3s running on 2s with the larger wheels will probly run way too hot. I will try and sell the VXL-3s esc and replace it with a brushless hobbies 120a esc. Not sure what to pick as far as motors are concerned. Could try and keep the velineon as I hear it's usually the esc's that go bad. The Castle 1410 3800kv 4 pole looks like the perfect match, but the cheapest I've found it was $105 on ebay.

I'm looking for a motor that doesn't get too got, has just as much torque as the velineion(hopefully more), less then the 1410, and can be geared for around 40mph or higher with a slash 4x4 with MT wheels
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I have both a Slash 4x4 and Stampede 4x4, both of which are running the Velineon 3500 Motor. The Slash has an SC8 ESC, and the Pede a Brushless Hobbies 120A. Both are good to go with 3S, with the Slash running regular 2.2/3.0's, and the Pede running 30-Series Trenchers on Desperado's. You should be fine with that motor.

If you're hellbent on replacing it, however, take a look at the Tacon 3660-540L-7T. It's a 3500kv unit that'd be a drop-in for your existing motor, and is getting rave reviews for it's low temps and high power. It's also around $45.

http://www.hobbypartz.com/96m211-3660-3500kv-7t.html
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Originally Posted by loadtotheface
Just bought a used slash 4x4. I'm going to put some larger 2.8 wheels on it and run 2s or 3s. 3s is out of the question with VXL-3S and larger wheels. Even the VXL-3s running on 2s with the larger wheels will probly run way too hot. I will try and sell the VXL-3s esc and replace it with a brushless hobbies 120a esc. Not sure what to pick as far as motors are concerned. Could try and keep the velineon as I hear it's usually the esc's that go bad. The Castle 1410 3800kv 4 pole looks like the perfect match, but the cheapest I've found it was $105 on ebay.

I'm looking for a motor that doesn't get too got, has just as much torque as the velineion(hopefully more), less then the 1410, and can be geared for around 40mph or higher with a slash 4x4 with MT wheels
The hobbywing 4000kv or 4600kv 540 4pole is about 100, the tenshock 411 4000kv or 4700kv is about the same 100.00. No 4-pole motor will run on your velineon from what I've read... so best plan on replacing both at the same time. The hobbywing sc pro 120amp is a great esc from what I've seen.. maybe snagging one myself to replace my rx8 on my scte. If you don't care about sensored vs sensorless you may want to look at the viper combo's w/ the 4-pole 540 motors.
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Actually you can run a 4-Pole on the VXL-3S, but it's 50k RPM Rev Limiter means you'll have to run a 3000kv motor on 2S, or even less of a kV Rating on 3S. The ESC sees a 4-pole as spinning twice as fast (Back-EMF Speed Sensing), so you'd have to pick a motor accordingly.

Obviously not ideal, mind you. I'm just saying it is doable, however silly it'd be to do it.
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I dropped a leopard 3650 2930kv 4 pole in my daughter rustler. It ran so cold I geared it to 28/87 using 1/8 buggy tires. It still get barely warm and has tons of torque. Very smooth too. I'm running it with a mmp. Ive ran 4s in it and it is crazy fast.
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I do not want to keep the velineon 3s esc. I believe that is the week point of the vxl system. I'd be happy to keep the vileneon motor if you guys think it can handle a slash 4x4 with much larger 2.8 wheels on 2s. As far as a new esc i'm set on the brushless hobbies 120a. Just not sure if i beed to replace the motor
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