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Old 02-12-2005, 10:03 AM   #31
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It has worked on American and European style tracks before, even with the likes of Brian Kinwald (before he was (in)famous??), so I don't see why it still can't be competitive now, there are still Preds making the A finals.
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Old 02-12-2005, 12:02 PM   #32
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This is a comment from a so called "Gabe Boudreau" about the Pred:

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The TTech car was the first shaft driven car. Kinwald ran one in 1996 at the Florida Winter Champs and lapped everyone with it. Thing was BOMB diggity.......
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Old 02-12-2005, 07:58 PM   #33
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still no pics.....
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Old 02-13-2005, 02:13 AM   #34
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To get back to the original topic though, I do wonder if the new Pred will be able to do the crossover and work on both styles of track?? I can see it being dominant in UK and Europe, but to work in North America as well would be quite an acomplishment
Same goes for here in Australia. The original cars struggled on our slippery and often rough tracks, though admittedly there was never many top drivers running them here so that may also have something to do with it.

Well times change and our tracks are generally much smoother and have a bit more grip so hopefully that combined with a higher quality car and we'll see the Predator do very well!

Looking forward to seeing some pics
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Old 02-13-2005, 06:57 AM   #35
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This is a comment from a so called "Gabe Boudreau" about the Pred:

everyone knows it wasnt the "first shaft driven" anything.. whats that all about..
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Old 02-13-2005, 03:40 PM   #36
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Please allow me to clear things up.

I designed the Predator and its transmission.
The transmission was unique and one of the key factors in the Predator's success on the race track.
(Tamiya's gear drive, at that time, was a totally different configuration with many more gears and bearings in the system)

The Predator had a new and revolutionary transmission.

It has spawned many imitations, from Associated, HPI, Yokomo, Tamiya, Accademy and others, used mainly now in touring cars.

Some of these manufacturers, have now convinced themselves, over time, that they invented it. Well they didn't.

It was designed in my drawing office in 1992.

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Old 02-13-2005, 04:39 PM   #37
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http://www.oople.com/rc/manuals/coyote/




I think that was designed in some drawing office in the early 1980s in italy ?


ive not built my Coyote yet, not studied the manual properly either, but it seems pretty much exactly like a tc3 etc..
the motor is just rotated 90deg.

I guess that is just the best way to do shaft drive.
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Old 02-13-2005, 06:25 PM   #38
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Don't forget the M.R.P Shotgun. It also had a modern shaft drive layout.
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Old 02-13-2005, 08:30 PM   #39
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Who cares who designed it or built it first, as long as it has it!

Personally, I absolutely hate anything and everything belt driven.... I have a Nitro touring car and on regular occasions the main drive belt will just fly off and leave my car 2wd (despite the fact it is tensioned as best a belt can be). I've never had a shaft-driven car do that!
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Old 02-13-2005, 08:53 PM   #40
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Yeah, but I have had a shaft car tourque steer, blow out a shaft cup, snap the shaft, twist the shaft, and throw off the weight distribution in a car. Funny, why aren't 1/8th cars made with shafts?
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Old 02-13-2005, 08:54 PM   #41
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1/8th scale onroad that is.
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Old 02-13-2005, 09:45 PM   #42
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Well, all of those problems are due to a couple important things, poor design and low quality parts, I'm betting.

I guess shaft is good for offroad due to its strength, and belt for onroad due to its smoothness. Being one who doesn't race, I will choose durability over a small increase in performance any day.

I have broken my 5-year-old Ofna Ultra MBX in many places, but the only thing that has never broken for any reason is a part of the shaft-driven drivetrain, so I have fallen in love with it, it being the only reliable part of the entire car. Perhaps my car is an oddity
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I think that was designed in some drawing office in the early 1980s in italy ?


ive not built my Coyote yet, not studied the manual properly either, but it seems pretty much exactly like a tc3 etc..
the motor is just rotated 90deg.

I guess that is just the best way to do shaft drive.
Well done Oople

Yes the Coyote was the first 4wd to use that transmission layout, the only difference being the motor location. The Coyote was released early in 1986 so anyone claiming the TC3, predator etc was the first is telling fibs

BTW Jimmy, love your website -great pics and some good stuff on the classics!
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Old 03-14-2005, 09:29 PM   #44
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wow! predator................pic x10

new pic's on website predator..
looks the same too me..
what do you guys think.
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Old 03-15-2005, 12:36 AM   #45
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you didn't look good, it's a P8
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