Cost of Entry Fees getting out of control
#16
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For comparison:
http://maps.wera.com/fees/?x=1098
That's for 1:1 full scale racing in a national series paying out contingency money. That includes full time corner workers, crash truck, ambulance on site.
$100 for the privilege of racing your toy car is way too much.
Michelin/WERA National Challenge Series -
All Classes - $95 for the first class, $75 for the second class, and $65 for each additional class after that for Pre Entry. Entry fees at the track will be $100 for the first class, $80 for the second class, and $70 for each additional class after that.
Note - on a weekend where National Challenge and Sportsman Series classes are run combined, the National prices will be used.
All Classes - $95 for the first class, $75 for the second class, and $65 for each additional class after that for Pre Entry. Entry fees at the track will be $100 for the first class, $80 for the second class, and $70 for each additional class after that.
Note - on a weekend where National Challenge and Sportsman Series classes are run combined, the National prices will be used.
That's for 1:1 full scale racing in a national series paying out contingency money. That includes full time corner workers, crash truck, ambulance on site.
$100 for the privilege of racing your toy car is way too much.
#19
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tell the track owners with your attendance
Seriously, if it's too expensive then don't show up. i agree about 100 being too high but then again, it's worth what people are willing to pay. it's how markets control price and it's capitalism at it's best. if no one shows up and the price stays high, you will see other "big" races popping up and the cactus will dwindle.
on the other hand, if entries stay the same, i would expect that other big races will get more expensive too.
on the other hand, if entries stay the same, i would expect that other big races will get more expensive too.
#20
I saw the same happen as a National, State, and Local area Tennis Tournament Player. Fees got so high that they drove approximatly fifty percent of the entrants away. At that point, guys did not want to play the same two or three guys per week, thus they stopped showing up and there were even less categories (Downward spiral). Greed has ruined our society. What ever happend to the concept of love of the sport and providing good value? The latter is a case where affordability decreased participation.
#21
+1. Tell them with attendance. If the attendance numbers are bad maybe they will get it. I can't believe though how many people complain about paying for race fees (even when they are high) like for this race when your going to be spending 100's if not 1000's to go to the race. If you can't afford it don't go. When it comes to these big races it's a matter of supply and demand and usually the high race fee helps to keep the bashers and hacks away. Is $95 high, hell yes, would it stop me from going? Hell no.
#22
Tech Regular
Guys, have to remember some of these guys are trying to simply turn a profit. I can understand covering the cost to run the race....RDs, lights, power etc. That much marshals should be included.
Hey, if you can convince some big names to pass due to entry fees ie the Ryans, Dustin, Jared, maybe the promoters will take note. My limit is $50 and 3 classes, and in state. Lol. TX is big enough.
Hey, if you can convince some big names to pass due to entry fees ie the Ryans, Dustin, Jared, maybe the promoters will take note. My limit is $50 and 3 classes, and in state. Lol. TX is big enough.
#23
Tech Champion
Is this the race that escorted the LiveRC crew out, or whatever happened, a couple years ago because of paid sponsor commitments?
#24
Maybe the high cost of entry has something to do with any extra permits the track might have to acquire to hold this event. I'd imagine they'd have to get some porta potties, maybe acquire some overflow parking and if they serve food there or have food vendors there, permits might have to be acquired for that as well. Plus, with some municipalities you have to acquire a permit to even have a larger event as well.
Now this is coming from a guy that has never been to the Cactus Classic or is familiar with Scottsdale AZ ordinances but there might be more to the cost than just trying to fleece the racers.
Now this is coming from a guy that has never been to the Cactus Classic or is familiar with Scottsdale AZ ordinances but there might be more to the cost than just trying to fleece the racers.
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#25
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Maybe the high cost of entry has something to do with any extra permits the track might have to acquire to hold this event. I'd imagine they'd have to get some porta potties, maybe acquire some overflow parking and if they serve food there or have food vendors there, permits might have to be acquired for that as well. Plus, with some municipalities you have to acquire a permit to even have a larger event as well.
Now this is coming from a guy that has never been to the Cactus Classic or is familiar with Scottsdale AZ ordinances but there might be more to the cost than just trying to fleece the racers.
Now this is coming from a guy that has never been to the Cactus Classic or is familiar with Scottsdale AZ ordinances but there might be more to the cost than just trying to fleece the racers.
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Wow what a rip off to the consumer. Our track had 450 plus for a race in December and the cost was 1/2 that and you got a T Shirt. It is an indoor race where you raced for a $50 fee and got to run from Tuesday til Sunday night. All indoors with heated pits, full hobbyshop and kitchen on site. Way more overhead than an outdoor race. Our owner would never bend the racers over like that.
#27
Wow what a rip off to the consumer. Our track had 450 plus for a race in December and the cost was 1/2 that and you got a T Shirt. It is an indoor race where you raced for a $50 fee and got to run from Tuesday til Sunday night. All indoors with heated pits, full hobbyshop and kitchen on site. Way more overhead than an outdoor race. Our owner would never bend the racers over like that.
Thats a good deal
#28
i thought about that as well. the bigger anything is the more expensive it gets. I haven't been to cactus but i hear it's fun but u fly through tires and even chassis'. but then again if all 500 entries only ran 1 class, the total race entry revenue would be $47,500. This doesn't include the parts, tires, etc that people will pick up there.
I wouldn't pay $100 to race but if it's that popular that they can even thing of charging that then so be it I guess.
#29
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Wow what a rip off to the consumer. Our track had 450 plus for a race in December and the cost was 1/2 that and you got a T Shirt. It is an indoor race where you raced for a $50 fee and got to run from Tuesday til Sunday night. All indoors with heated pits, full hobbyshop and kitchen on site. Way more overhead than an outdoor race. Our owner would never bend the racers over like that.
Cactus classic; it would be nice but $95 to get to pit outside in the sun and sandstorms... Yeah probably not... I will watch it on live rc though!
#30
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You had better be for real about "racing" to run that race. (A-GAME only racers) That said. The more Moolah generated in events like this will make RC Racing taken more seriously as a sport rather than as a toy/hobby. That's big money generated for the state and city as well.
Over the years with entries low I have seen a lot of club racers hold back from club racing to run in the big shows. Maybe if they keep up these prices club racing can thrive again. Club racing is vital to build a stronger amount of racers. Although I'm sure there will be many more events smaller than this for many to run in.
The more mature we become as a Sport the more we will have to accept the cost to race in venues of this caliber.
I would pay half that to know I didn't have a chance to make the A, But 100.? No way. I'm not that serious about it.
Over the years with entries low I have seen a lot of club racers hold back from club racing to run in the big shows. Maybe if they keep up these prices club racing can thrive again. Club racing is vital to build a stronger amount of racers. Although I'm sure there will be many more events smaller than this for many to run in.
The more mature we become as a Sport the more we will have to accept the cost to race in venues of this caliber.
I would pay half that to know I didn't have a chance to make the A, But 100.? No way. I'm not that serious about it.