Tire Confusion!?!?!
01-10-2012, 07:15 AM
#16
01-10-2012, 07:15 AM
#17
01-10-2012, 08:15 AM
#18
01-10-2012, 08:26 AM
#19
Front End:
-Shocks in middle hole on top of the shock tower and on the outer hole on the a-arm.
-45 weight shock oil
-buggy blue springs with buggy .80 shafts
-1 washer under ballstud on shock tower
-turnbuckle on inner most hole on caster block
-20 degree caster blocks
-2 washers under ballstud (bump steer i think?)
-Front sway bar, Gold bar
-No toe
-camber is set so tire is straight up
Rear End:
-Shocks in middle hole on shock tower,Outer hole on A-arm
-45 weight shock oil
-Gray springs in rear with SC10 front shafts
-One washer under ballstud on shock tower
-0 degree hub carriers
-Turnbucle on outer hole on hub carrier
-Rear sway bear, gold bar
-Some toe in
-Camber looks -1 ish
-1/2oz next to reciever
-1/4 oz in each triangle (4 triangles so 1oz total)
-Battery Placement is forward
-A-arms are below level,front and rear
-I have tried panther switch,sc10 stock,proline suburbs,jconcepts subcultures and didnt really seam to like them but if i had to choose i would go with the suburbs
-Track is smooth clay (almost like cork) with medium traction
-Ball Diff
-Tekin and Spektrum Electronics
Looking for some more forward and side bite.
I know this is kinda long but any suggestions are appreciated.
Thank you all
-Shocks in middle hole on top of the shock tower and on the outer hole on the a-arm.
-45 weight shock oil
-buggy blue springs with buggy .80 shafts
-1 washer under ballstud on shock tower
-turnbuckle on inner most hole on caster block
-20 degree caster blocks
-2 washers under ballstud (bump steer i think?)
-Front sway bar, Gold bar
-No toe
-camber is set so tire is straight up
Rear End:
-Shocks in middle hole on shock tower,Outer hole on A-arm
-45 weight shock oil
-Gray springs in rear with SC10 front shafts
-One washer under ballstud on shock tower
-0 degree hub carriers
-Turnbucle on outer hole on hub carrier
-Rear sway bear, gold bar
-Some toe in
-Camber looks -1 ish
-1/2oz next to reciever
-1/4 oz in each triangle (4 triangles so 1oz total)
-Battery Placement is forward
-A-arms are below level,front and rear
-I have tried panther switch,sc10 stock,proline suburbs,jconcepts subcultures and didnt really seam to like them but if i had to choose i would go with the suburbs
-Track is smooth clay (almost like cork) with medium traction
-Ball Diff
-Tekin and Spektrum Electronics
Looking for some more forward and side bite.
I know this is kinda long but any suggestions are appreciated.
Thank you all
I stopped looking at your setup as soon as I saw 45 wt oil!
I basically run Cavalieri's setup from team assoc website setup sheets with tha addition of a swaybay most of the time as we have pretty high bite and i just like the feel of the truck that way. Doesn't increase my lap times as they are about the same with or without sway bar. I would start with that base setup as your 45 weight is very high.
01-10-2012, 08:42 AM
#20
Tech Adept
Thread Starter
I stopped looking at your setup as soon as I saw 45 wt oil!
I basically run Cavalieri's setup from team assoc website setup sheets with tha addition of a swaybay most of the time as we have pretty high bite and i just like the feel of the truck that way. Doesn't increase my lap times as they are about the same with or without sway bar. I would start with that base setup as your 45 weight is very high.
I basically run Cavalieri's setup from team assoc website setup sheets with tha addition of a swaybay most of the time as we have pretty high bite and i just like the feel of the truck that way. Doesn't increase my lap times as they are about the same with or without sway bar. I would start with that base setup as your 45 weight is very high.
So stiffer shock oil calls for less traction?
Ryan Cavaleri's setup sheet track conditions look very similar to mine!!
I will try his setup, but the only thing is 27.5 oil seems really light for my track.Maybe i should try to bump it up 32.5. I seem to drive better with a lower sitting car and arms sitting even seems kind of high up.
Thanks
01-10-2012, 08:47 AM
#21
yeeeaaaaa a responce thanks man.
So stiffer shock oil calls for less traction?
Ryan Cavaleri's setup sheet track conditions look very similar to mine!!
I will try his setup, but the only thing is 27.5 oil seems really light for my track.Maybe i should try to bump it up 32.5. I seem to drive better with a lower sitting car and arms sitting even seems kind of high up.
Thanks
So stiffer shock oil calls for less traction?
Ryan Cavaleri's setup sheet track conditions look very similar to mine!!
I will try his setup, but the only thing is 27.5 oil seems really light for my track.Maybe i should try to bump it up 32.5. I seem to drive better with a lower sitting car and arms sitting even seems kind of high up.
Thanks
01-10-2012, 08:51 AM
#22
yeeeaaaaa a responce thanks man.
So stiffer shock oil calls for less traction?
Ryan Cavaleri's setup sheet track conditions look very similar to mine!!
I will try his setup, but the only thing is 27.5 oil seems really light for my track.Maybe i should try to bump it up 32.5. I seem to drive better with a lower sitting car and arms sitting even seems kind of high up.
Thanks
So stiffer shock oil calls for less traction?
Ryan Cavaleri's setup sheet track conditions look very similar to mine!!
I will try his setup, but the only thing is 27.5 oil seems really light for my track.Maybe i should try to bump it up 32.5. I seem to drive better with a lower sitting car and arms sitting even seems kind of high up.
Thanks
BTW- I have a bunch of panther tires coming as they work great on our track and i am not a sponsored driver(tried to be but it wasn't to be) so i have no vested interest in what tires you run. I will be trying the rattlers and the slicks this weekend on all my cars. Its amazing to me in this sport how much stuff a hobby shop sells when someone wins a race -the other racers want to duplicate the winners setup
Most standard setups will get you in the ballpark with addition of the best tire for the day. The rest is all driver- that is usually the weak link Have fun!
01-10-2012, 09:02 AM
#23
yeeeaaaaa a responce thanks man.
So stiffer shock oil calls for less traction?
Ryan Cavaleri's setup sheet track conditions look very similar to mine!!
I will try his setup, but the only thing is 27.5 oil seems really light for my track.Maybe i should try to bump it up 32.5. I seem to drive better with a lower sitting car and arms sitting even seems kind of high up.
Thanks
So stiffer shock oil calls for less traction?
Ryan Cavaleri's setup sheet track conditions look very similar to mine!!
I will try his setup, but the only thing is 27.5 oil seems really light for my track.Maybe i should try to bump it up 32.5. I seem to drive better with a lower sitting car and arms sitting even seems kind of high up.
Thanks
You can also try:
http://teamassociated.com/pdf/cars_a...rnats_2010.pdf
Remember, shock oil is really temperature dependent. On Saturday during practice, the track temperature was in the low 30's and I was way too heavy. By the time the mains went off it was 62 degrees, and my truck was about perfect.
When Ruona was running the above setup in Chico, it was the middle of summer and 100+ outside. If I was to go run there today I'd run the same setup 15wt lighter to start because of temperature. The dates (and therefore the inferred weather) on the setup sheets are almost as important as the setup.
01-10-2012, 09:11 AM
#24
Front End:
-Shocks in middle hole on top of the shock tower and on the outer hole on the a-arm.
-45 weight shock oil
-buggy blue springs with buggy .80 shafts
-1 washer under ballstud on shock tower
-turnbuckle on inner most hole on caster block
-20 degree caster blocks
-2 washers under ballstud (bump steer i think?)
-Front sway bar, Gold bar
-No toe
-camber is set so tire is straight up
Rear End:
-Shocks in middle hole on shock tower,Outer hole on A-arm
-45 weight shock oil
-Gray springs in rear with SC10 front shafts
-One washer under ballstud on shock tower
-0 degree hub carriers
-Turnbucle on outer hole on hub carrier
-Rear sway bear, gold bar
-Some toe in
-Camber looks -1 ish
-1/2oz next to reciever
-1/4 oz in each triangle (4 triangles so 1oz total)
-Battery Placement is forward
-A-arms are below level,front and rear
-I have tried panther switch,sc10 stock,proline suburbs,jconcepts subcultures and didnt really seam to like them but if i had to choose i would go with the suburbs
-Track is smooth clay (almost like cork) with medium traction
-Ball Diff
-Tekin and Spektrum Electronics
Looking for some more forward and side bite.
I know this is kinda long but any suggestions are appreciated.
Thank you all
-Shocks in middle hole on top of the shock tower and on the outer hole on the a-arm.
-45 weight shock oil
-buggy blue springs with buggy .80 shafts
-1 washer under ballstud on shock tower
-turnbuckle on inner most hole on caster block
-20 degree caster blocks
-2 washers under ballstud (bump steer i think?)
-Front sway bar, Gold bar
-No toe
-camber is set so tire is straight up
Rear End:
-Shocks in middle hole on shock tower,Outer hole on A-arm
-45 weight shock oil
-Gray springs in rear with SC10 front shafts
-One washer under ballstud on shock tower
-0 degree hub carriers
-Turnbucle on outer hole on hub carrier
-Rear sway bear, gold bar
-Some toe in
-Camber looks -1 ish
-1/2oz next to reciever
-1/4 oz in each triangle (4 triangles so 1oz total)
-Battery Placement is forward
-A-arms are below level,front and rear
-I have tried panther switch,sc10 stock,proline suburbs,jconcepts subcultures and didnt really seam to like them but if i had to choose i would go with the suburbs
-Track is smooth clay (almost like cork) with medium traction
-Ball Diff
-Tekin and Spektrum Electronics
Looking for some more forward and side bite.
I know this is kinda long but any suggestions are appreciated.
Thank you all
next try some pink hot bodies beams with some proline sc v3 inserts or hotbodies pink molded inserts.
and make sure your slipper is working properly that can greatly effect performance, if you are running stock white slipper pads and the small spring, get the gold pads and the bigger spring for your slipper this will drastically help.
maybe you can have someone who is a good racer at your track drive your car and tell you what they think.
the other thing is that you might be just over powered for your skill level, just because other people are running a 7.5 or 8.5 brushless doesn't mean its for a newer driver.
01-10-2012, 09:35 AM
#25
yeeeaaaaa a responce thanks man.
So stiffer shock oil calls for less traction?
Ryan Cavaleri's setup sheet track conditions look very similar to mine!!
I will try his setup, but the only thing is 27.5 oil seems really light for my track.Maybe i should try to bump it up 32.5. I seem to drive better with a lower sitting car and arms sitting even seems kind of high up.
Thanks
So stiffer shock oil calls for less traction?
Ryan Cavaleri's setup sheet track conditions look very similar to mine!!
I will try his setup, but the only thing is 27.5 oil seems really light for my track.Maybe i should try to bump it up 32.5. I seem to drive better with a lower sitting car and arms sitting even seems kind of high up.
Thanks
01-10-2012, 10:13 AM
#26
Tech Adept
Thread Starter
Thanks for replys guys!!!!
I run a 13.5 tekin redline.
I am kinda stumped on what setup to start out with. I think I am leaning towards cavaleris setup.My track around 40 degrees.
I am just worried about my ride height though. I can't drive it when its sitting high because it will just traction roll no matter what tire you are running.
Thanks,keep the feedback coming
I run a 13.5 tekin redline.
I am kinda stumped on what setup to start out with. I think I am leaning towards cavaleris setup.My track around 40 degrees.
I am just worried about my ride height though. I can't drive it when its sitting high because it will just traction roll no matter what tire you are running.
Thanks,keep the feedback coming
01-10-2012, 10:14 AM
#27
What is the difference between the super soft compound and clay compound for panther tires? And what is the difference between the panther white and yellow foams?
01-10-2012, 11:08 AM
#28
Tech Adept
Thread Starter
Also on cavaleri's setup I see he drilled a fourth hole out in the rear shock tower for the shock mount,but what is he running on the a-arm?
Also what limiters is he using?the really thin ones or the thicker ones?(#6466)
Does associated sell the .5 degree hub carriers in plastic?Can you use the rear a arm mount in diffrent numbers instead?
Man am i noob for all these noobie questions.
Also what limiters is he using?the really thin ones or the thicker ones?(#6466)
Does associated sell the .5 degree hub carriers in plastic?Can you use the rear a arm mount in diffrent numbers instead?
Man am i noob for all these noobie questions.
01-10-2012, 01:08 PM
#29
Tech Adept
Thread Starter
bumpity bump bump bumpity bump bump
any replys?
any replys?
01-11-2012, 12:40 AM
#30
no but you can run a 3 3.5 or 4 deg toe block and get the same effect, more rear toe more rear traction which will cut down steering.
the 4th hole is drilled equal spacing on the shock tower very simple
and the arm mount should be noted on setup sheet
the 4th hole is drilled equal spacing on the shock tower very simple
and the arm mount should be noted on setup sheet