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Old 12-02-2011, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Lowrance View Post
Did some quick calculations on energy at impact and came up with the following. I don't know the true weights of the vehicles so I made a guess.

8lbs at 100mph = 2650 ft-lbs

12lbs at 50mph = 993 ft-lbs
And what does it take to "kill" somebody? Much less. Traxxas is demonstrating absolute genious in marketing. "100 mph" is getting them huge buzz. If we take everything down to the lowest common denominator of intelligence, everyone will be going back to Radio Shack to buy the crap I got for Christmas in the 70's.
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Old 12-02-2011, 11:12 AM
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Not sure what point you are trying to make? They made it capable of being very fast and somewhat difficult to reach its full potential. Sounds reasonable to me.
Um, that is the point. If they sold the car without the lphone thingy and it hit 100mph without having to go through the hoops people were complaining about, it would open them up to more legal liability when some kid hurts someone with the car.

The point is the limiter isn't about Traxxas trying to be cool and/or inconveniencing users. It is about protecting themselves from lawsuits. They just did it in a way that doesn't look overly corny but instead spun it as some high tech feature of the car.
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Old 12-02-2011, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Edumakated View Post
Um, that is the point. If they sold the car without the lphone thingy and it hit 100mph without having to go through the hoops people were complaining about, it would open them up to more legal liability when some kid hurts someone with the car.

The point is the limiter isn't about Traxxas trying to be cool and/or inconveniencing users. It is about protecting themselves from lawsuits. They just did it in a way that doesn't look overly corny but instead spun it as some high tech feature of the car.
Gotcha, and I agree with you. All those words were making it hard to tell what side of the fence you were on.
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Old 12-02-2011, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by StPete40 View Post
And what does it take to "kill" somebody? Much less. Traxxas is demonstrating absolute genious in marketing. "100 mph" is getting them huge buzz. If we take everything down to the lowest common denominator of intelligence, everyone will be going back to Radio Shack to buy the crap I got for Christmas in the 70's.
Yes, it is great marketing. No one is arguing that point.

People get killed all the time by very simple items that on the surface aren't dangerous. Several people a year some how drown in buckets. Not sure how, but Darwin/Evolution has a way. This is why most small toys have on the package they are a choking hazard. You aren't supposed to put the toy in your mouth, but some child will. This is why plastic bags say suffocation hazard. You shouldn't put it over your head, but someone will. The company's just don't want to be held responsible for the user's lack of intelligence.

There is no way to prevent accidents from happening whether intentional or not. Sure, someone may accidentally get hurt by getting hit in the ankle with a Revo at 30 mph. However, that is significantly different from advertising a 100mph land rocket.

One is just merely an accident, while the other is clearly a much higher risk or an accident just waiting to happen. If you can't discern the nuance between the two, then I guess this is just over your head.

The risk of death or serious injury increases exponentially as the speed increases. That is what the poster was trying to show.
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Thanks for the dose of pontification.
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Originally Posted by Lowrance View Post
Did some quick calculations on energy at impact and came up with the following. I don't know the true weights of the vehicles so I made a guess.

8lbs at 100mph = 2650 ft-lbs

12lbs at 50mph = 993 ft-lbs
well over double the Ft-lbs(bordering 3x as much) while onlly 2/3 the mass..And i think your 8lb guestimate is being gracious considering the motor alone weighs in at around the 2lb mark.I will go check the traxxas site and get the actual weight...Just checked the traxxas site and this car weighs in at 10.3 lbs with batteries, so those calculations were VERY gracious..
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Default Want to discuss dangerous toy's ? Try RC heli..

If you find this car dangerous then don't ever go near an RC Heli.. there is a 'toy' you can get for 1/2 the price of this car and that can kill you right out of the box (no activation required..)

Personally I find this XO-1 to be quite an interesting RC. I'm not that much into straight line speed run, for me it's the aero package that attracts. Curious to see it on a track against GT-2 and DM-1 (but that would be for a thread in the on road forum..)
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Where's that "girl on a bike getting hit in the face by a e-maxx" gif when you need it?
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If you find this car dangerous then don't ever go near an RC Heli.. there is a 'toy' you can get for 1/2 the price of this car and that can kill you right out of the box (no activation required..)

Personally I find this XO-1 to be quite an interesting RC. I'm not that much into straight line speed run, for me it's the aero package that attracts. Curious to see it on a track against GT-2 and DM-1 (but that would be for a thread in the on road forum..)
I like the car and plan on getting a roller when they start showing up on ebay. I have some spare truggy motors and speedos that would have a happy home in a car like this. I wanted to build a DM-1 or a Kyosho GT, but never could find the time or spare change to buy a roller. No activation required.

I was just commenting on the likely reason for the activation.
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If you find this car dangerous then don't ever go near an RC Heli.. there is a 'toy' you can get for 1/2 the price of this car and that can kill you right out of the box (no activation required..)

Personally I find this XO-1 to be quite an interesting RC. I'm not that much into straight line speed run, for me it's the aero package that attracts. Curious to see it on a track against GT-2 and DM-1 (but that would be for a thread in the on road forum..)
Oh no doubt that on a track (at a reasonable speed)or a closed area where its safe to open it up I am sure this would be an absolute riotBut out front of the house or a public parking lot..nope...Too many variables..and as the saying goes " you need to worry more about others you share the road with than yourself"But hey I am just pointing out that dumbasses DO own Ipods, especially dumbasses with more money than common sense(NOT saying all Iphone owners are DA's)..point is afew of you are acting like you need some super secret combination to unlock the potential of this car...My 15 yr old knows his way around the Iphone better than I do at 40...hell I would probally have to have HIM unlock it FOR ME!
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Originally Posted by Edumakated View Post
(..) I have some spare truggy motors and speedos that would have a happy home in a car like this. (...)
I was just commenting on the likely reason for the activation.
Exactly what I did with my DM-1 E. I tried with a Castle 1520 on 6S but that was way too much weight on one side - which brings another good thing about this XO-1 with the more balanced layout of the saddle pack config.
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Originally Posted by sugs View Post
Ooops, I guess the thread needs to move to the on-road section, haha.

Only thing I'm interested in is the radio. Would've never considered a Traxxas radio before but this thing has my attention.
If you have an old tq Traxxas radio that you aren't using (any version, even the AM), you will be able to get the Rx, docking pod, and telemetry Rx for $100 through Traxxas or your hobby shop. Pick up an iPod 2nd gen or higher on eBay or Craigslist (if you don't have an iPod) for as low as 38 bucks, and you are dine
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Originally Posted by Cain View Post
I guess I am wondering why you can't use castlelink on the ESC to get you the magical 100mph .

Also curious what exactly is different between this XS ESC and the regular MMM as well as the XL.

Lastly, kind of find it funny how some stuff is waterproof and others isn't.
I think one if the biggest reasone is to make sure that every customer who wants to go 100mph, understands what that entails....just adding information Ina paper manual isn't enough, because, as we all know, some experienced guys don't want to read instruction manuals, because they know better :-)
Apparently, there is very little that is similar to the castle esc....there is more that is different....even the capacitors are different from the optional caps that are available for the MM..
The XL is the same SIZE at castles 1717 motor, but everything else is different. This is a motor that will only be available in Traxxas future vehicles. The esc is also Traxxas exclusive, so you won't see a different colored one in another manufacturers vehicles or whatever.

Lastly, castle has yet to make a waterproof car esc that is this large. Everything else in the caris waterproof.

Hope this helps!:-)
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So... why is this thread still in the off-road section?
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Old 12-03-2011, 08:11 AM
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So... why is this thread still in the off-road section?
Cause thats were most of these are going to end up after drivers loose control ....
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