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Old 10-31-2011, 12:44 AM   #61
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It all depends what is the definition of "toy" for you

toy [tɔɪ]
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a. something that is a nonfunctioning replica of something else, esp a miniature one
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3. any small thing of little value; trifle
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To me, a toy has nothing to do with the age or danger. A toy is made to PLAY and have pleasure. So yes I consider RC cars like toys, as well as every object I can play with. I don't see why so many rc fans react like it was something negative. Is it a shame to play? I'm proud to do rc but it doesn't mean I take it too seriously. I mean, these are rc cars to have fun with on a track or whatever the terrain is! I respect my toys as much as more "serious" things in life. They give me pleasure so I take care of them, as simple as that. I love playing and I wished everybody would play a lot more to get less frustrated in general just my 50cts
But your perspective is not the average persons. To most people, toy implies cheap and disposable, something that is frivolous. When I tell people I run rc cars on my off time, most people laugh and say "Really? My kids love rc cars". Then they see them, and the reaction is usually a little different lol.
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But your perspective is not the average persons. To most people, toy implies cheap and disposable, something that is frivolous. When I tell people I run rc cars on my off time, most people laugh and say "Really? My kids love rc cars". Then they see them, and the reaction is usually a little different lol.
It all depends on how you present your hobby too. Many guys that do rc racing or bashing don't assume it and consider the hobby menial, so it seems normal that people around them will think the same. We are talking about ego here.

Part of the reasons why I moved to another country is that I could play more with my rc cars. Some will find it strange but I don't care, I go where I can play the most easily. And I consider myself like a beginner.. It all depends on your relationship with the pleasure finally.

Is a toy frivolous? Definitely not, it is part of our strongest needs and what educates and socialize us too. The problem is we relate more and more value to money... To me, the most important things are free and have nothing to do with money. I don't even work for money.

Finally any object can be a toy..or not. Your car for example. Do you take it out just to drive on a track and go crazy. Then it's a toy. Or is it only what allows you to go from a place A to B? Then it's a tool. Whether an object is a toy depends on your RELATION with it, and not what it is intrisically. So finally it's totally subjective.
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I am very competitive and take great care of my stuff. I spend too much time and money on this stuff, but at the end of the day these are toy cars. Idc how much you dump into them they are just toys. Yes they are race cars too and very valuable, but they cant drive you anywhere and we all go play with them to forget about real world problems.
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But your perspective is not the average persons. To most people, toy implies cheap and disposable, something that is frivolous. When I tell people I run rc cars on my off time, most people laugh and say "Really? My kids love rc cars". Then they see them, and the reaction is usually a little different lol.
THIS. I get that alot. Then you explain that the car is made from carbon fiber and anodized aluminum and can reach speeds over 50mph and the little "my kids play with those" smurk usually turns into and eyebrow raising "holy crap, really?!" followed by a "can you bring one into work sometime?"

Yes they are toys...to me. But I also like to shoot high powered rifles that I also refer to as my toys (I think it pisses off the wife...which is why I do it ).
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THIS. I get that alot. Then you explain that the car is made from carbon fiber and anodized aluminum and can reach speeds over 50mph and the little "my kids play with those" smurk usually turns into and eyebrow raising "holy crap, really?!" followed by a "can you bring one into work sometime?"

Yes they are toys...to me. But I also like to shoot high powered rifles that I also refer to as my toys (I think it pisses off the wife...which is why I do it ).
Exactly. They are toys if you use the strict sense of the definition, but not really "toys" when you consider how they are used, the cost, and performance. This is why there is a distinction between hobby grade and toy rc products.

It is really hard to define the nuance between when something crosses from being a toy to a more refined performance vehicle. It is kind of like porn. Hard to define, but I know it when I see it.
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The guys that try to claim your RC cars aren't toys because you race them need to dive back into reality.

You're telling ThunderbirdJunkie, and everybody else here, that you work on your cars, spend an hour packing your stuff up to go to the track every week that is over an hour away to go drive your car into the dirt for zero tangible gain that your car is a tool, not a toy? Something in this equation is a tool...but it ain't your toy car

ThunderbirdJunkie has a $6000 tool box (not counting the tools). Since it's no longer used to make a living, it is now a toy. A big, orange toy that weighs a lot, and on slow days at work used to double as a cot for a nap.

ThunderbirdJunkie's Jeep that he plays with off road is also a toy, despite doubling as transportation to work and school. The only way his daily transportation would not be a toy is if it were some lame duck Corolla or something that doesn't do anything fun.

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/\ /\ /\ Very nice shop. My "shop" is a broken down XJ in my driveway. It isn't pretty and too is just a toy, but when I feel like getting my hands greasy, it fits the bill.
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See attached screenshot of the SCTE manual. Losi clearly states "Not a toy" on multiple occasions.


Debate over.
And ThunderbirdJunkie's mom's manual for her Toyota Sequoia 4x2 claimed it was an off road vehicle, what's your point?
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Yep, these are toys...unmanned aerial vehicles the military sends up are toys too...as well as the vehicles that probe deep into collapsed buildings and tunnels...bomb detonating robots...ROVs that search the Titanic...ditto...all just simple toys.
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the tamiya catalog has to be: "these are toys, deal with it"



even ferrari's are toys

if this was a sport, everybody was still thin
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And ThunderbirdJunkie's mom's manual for her Toyota Sequoia 4x2 claimed it was an off road vehicle, what's your point?
AbstractZen thinks ThunderbirdJunkie needs to lighten up a smidge. That was meant ENTIRELY as a joke. Therefore, there was no point.

I simply found it funny that I happened across that in the manual about the same time this thread popped up.
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