TLR 22T Thread
#5341
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Awesome! Are you running those one at a time, or two parallel? I'm a fan of outrunners, can't beat their power/weight and bang/buck ratio weird so little people are using them in cars.
I like the ones you are running, but I need a bit more kvs, as I'm not planning on running 6S. Found some nice ones, but they're 37mm diameter, and I'm not sure if that would fit the motor mount. I'll only receive my truck next week, so then I can measure.
I like the ones you are running, but I need a bit more kvs, as I'm not planning on running 6S. Found some nice ones, but they're 37mm diameter, and I'm not sure if that would fit the motor mount. I'll only receive my truck next week, so then I can measure.
http://www.innov8tivedesigns.com/ind...ath=21_120_122
The 28mm outrunners have a 35mm OD, large bearings, and a large kv range, for a reasonable price.
#5342
Would running 2 , 2s shorty lipos on their sides or velcroed together fit in front of the esc shelf ? It would be a good way to get 4000 mah or so of 4s in there. The castle 1415 2400 is a pretty sweet motor on 3s and real animal on 4s . It should fit as well , and they are around for about $65.00 . The Losi branded blue 2800 scte motor is good on 3s and 4s , but it has a 5mm shaft and may cause gearing issues , but they are cheap . 50.00 will buy one of those. I dont think the batteries you have will work with these motors though. Both are 550 size 4 pole motors.
#5343
Outrunner time!
Only one at a time. The weight is the same as a shorty that way. Check out
http://www.innov8tivedesigns.com/ind...ath=21_120_122
The 28mm outrunners have a 35mm OD, large bearings, and a large kv range, for a reasonable price.
http://www.innov8tivedesigns.com/ind...ath=21_120_122
The 28mm outrunners have a 35mm OD, large bearings, and a large kv range, for a reasonable price.
- Cobra C-2814/12, Kv=1390: 40 A, 440/600W (3S/4S); yields 41/55 mph (3S/4S nominal) no load wheel speed on 4 inch tires, provided I can fit in the 38/70 gearing as Casper suggested
- Cobra C-2820/8, Kv=1450: 55 A, 610/810W (3S/4S); yields 43/57 mph (3S/4S nominal) no load wheel speed on 4 inch tires @ 38/70 gearing
- Cobra C-2820/12, Kv=970: 40 A, 880W on 6S; yields 57 mph (6S nominal) no load wheel speed on 4 inch tires @ 38/70 gearing; would be able to run this with my 3S packs in series (1400mAh 40-80C ~ max safe continuous current of 56 A)
With 14 poles, all of these are really pushing the max commutation rate of the Mamba Max Pro at the given voltages (that's why I can't run the 1390kv one on 6S for instance); however, under normal load CPMs will be a bit lower and the MMP should be able to handle it.
Main habitat is likely to be some smooth gravel roads, and large smooth grass fields (parks), no hardcore bashing and I am not after setting any street speed records with this one. Any thoughts on the set-ups listed above? Would it be too much power for the rear wheels / tranny to handle?
Edit: the Scorpion HK-2520-1880kv looks very nice too and would not need the maxed out 38/70 gearing, but can only be ran up to 4S with the MMP due to required commutation rate, and then I guess the output would be comparable to the Cobra C-2814/12, but at twice the cost...
Last edited by Dr_T; 01-04-2014 at 03:34 PM.
#5344
I'm trying to figure out tire availability for the 22t...I see that the are 2.2 size but I'm confused because I know that the inside diameter of both sides of tires are the same.
They are not like the Sct truck tires. What should I be looking for in tires as far as sizes that will fit the 22t.
They are not like the Sct truck tires. What should I be looking for in tires as far as sizes that will fit the 22t.
#5345
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I'm trying to figure out tire availability for the 22t...I see that the are 2.2 size but I'm confused because I know that the inside diameter of both sides of tires are the same.
They are not like the Sct truck tires. What should I be looking for in tires as far as sizes that will fit the 22t.
They are not like the Sct truck tires. What should I be looking for in tires as far as sizes that will fit the 22t.
#5346
Thanks...I just see a lot of 2.2 tires and 1/10 scale but I will look for "truck tires"
#5348
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Those are pretty neat motors! I'm considering these options:
With 14 poles, all of these are really pushing the max commutation rate of the Mamba Max Pro at the given voltages (that's why I can't run the 1390kv one on 6S for instance); however, under normal load CPMs will be a bit lower and the MMP should be able to handle it.
Main habitat is likely to be some smooth gravel roads, and large smooth grass fields (parks), no hardcore bashing and I am not after setting any street speed records with this one. Any thoughts on the set-ups listed above? Would it be too much power for the rear wheels / tranny to handle?
Edit: the Scorpion HK-2520-1880kv looks very nice too and would not need the maxed out 38/70 gearing, but can only be ran up to 4S with the MMP due to required commutation rate, and then I guess the output would be comparable to the Cobra C-2814/12, but at twice the cost...
- Cobra C-2814/12, Kv=1390: 40 A, 440/600W (3S/4S); yields 41/55 mph (3S/4S nominal) no load wheel speed on 4 inch tires, provided I can fit in the 38/70 gearing as Casper suggested
- Cobra C-2820/8, Kv=1450: 55 A, 610/810W (3S/4S); yields 43/57 mph (3S/4S nominal) no load wheel speed on 4 inch tires @ 38/70 gearing
- Cobra C-2820/12, Kv=970: 40 A, 880W on 6S; yields 57 mph (6S nominal) no load wheel speed on 4 inch tires @ 38/70 gearing; would be able to run this with my 3S packs in series (1400mAh 40-80C ~ max safe continuous current of 56 A)
With 14 poles, all of these are really pushing the max commutation rate of the Mamba Max Pro at the given voltages (that's why I can't run the 1390kv one on 6S for instance); however, under normal load CPMs will be a bit lower and the MMP should be able to handle it.
Main habitat is likely to be some smooth gravel roads, and large smooth grass fields (parks), no hardcore bashing and I am not after setting any street speed records with this one. Any thoughts on the set-ups listed above? Would it be too much power for the rear wheels / tranny to handle?
Edit: the Scorpion HK-2520-1880kv looks very nice too and would not need the maxed out 38/70 gearing, but can only be ran up to 4S with the MMP due to required commutation rate, and then I guess the output would be comparable to the Cobra C-2814/12, but at twice the cost...
#5349
>2S Losi 22T motor options
Shipping to EU will probably take a few weeks, but I'll report back when I have everything up and running. If the 38/70 gearing Casper suggested is indeed too tall to fit the tranny, I might put some more effort in finding the Leopard, or try if I can make a 62T mini 8ight spur work with some modding.
Maybe it's of any use to anyone stumbling upon here through google, so attached is an overview of the motors I considered in the end. Everything with a question mark is a guestimate from my side, just so you know.
Thanks for all the help ufoDziner! Your set-ups and battery suggestions were very helpfull!
#5350
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Actually, after a lot (too much) of thinking, I ordered the Cobra 2826/10, like you have, last night. I liked the fact that the 2820's are nice and light, but wasn't sure they would be robust enough for a 1.9 kg truck - I've seen guys do the same with the mini 8ight and although power wise it should work, the smaller motors tended to burn up. On paper, I liked the 1100kv 3548 motors of Hobbyking too; they seem to be great value, but on 6S they are likely to have have too many revs for my MMP to handle and I don't want an air ESC. The 2290kv LBP 3650/6D would be my favorite inrunner, but proved quite hard to find. The 550 cans that were suggested are a bit too heavy for my liking, at almost twice the weight of stock.
Shipping to EU will probably take a few weeks, but I'll report back when I have everything up and running. If the 38/70 gearing Casper suggested is indeed too tall to fit the tranny, I might put some more effort in finding the Leopard, or try if I can make a 62T mini 8ight spur work with some modding.
Maybe it's of any use to anyone stumbling upon here through google, so attached is an overview of the motors I considered in the end. Everything with a question mark is a guestimate from my side, just so you know.
Thanks for all the help ufoDziner! Your set-ups and battery suggestions were very helpfull!
Shipping to EU will probably take a few weeks, but I'll report back when I have everything up and running. If the 38/70 gearing Casper suggested is indeed too tall to fit the tranny, I might put some more effort in finding the Leopard, or try if I can make a 62T mini 8ight spur work with some modding.
Maybe it's of any use to anyone stumbling upon here through google, so attached is an overview of the motors I considered in the end. Everything with a question mark is a guestimate from my side, just so you know.
Thanks for all the help ufoDziner! Your set-ups and battery suggestions were very helpfull!
#5351
I think the motor plate on the 22t is tha same as on the 22. If it is you are in luck and the 38/70 will work. Thats what I run on my 17.5 22
#5353
#5354
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The caster blocks, plus the kick up, equal total caster. I'd stay between 25 to 35* total caster. The kick up options are 20, 25, and 30. I think 30* total is the best place to start, then tune from there. I've found less caster to have a more direct steering feel, and turn more agressively entering. More caster seems to help the car rotate better in the center of the turn, and help keep the car in the turn longer to finish the turn better. It is a balance between the two that needs to be found for each person's driving style, for sure.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...22t-TLR1109#t3
22T Truck Aluminum Part TLR1109
^What front castor do these 22T Aluminum Inline Spindle fit with?
#5355
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thanks...
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...22t-TLR1109#t3
22T Truck Aluminum Part TLR1109
^What front castor do these 22T Aluminum Inline Spindle fit with?
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...22t-TLR1109#t3
22T Truck Aluminum Part TLR1109
^What front castor do these 22T Aluminum Inline Spindle fit with?
these WILL NOT fit/work correctly: http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ster-Block-Set