Track safety! Racers/Marshalls PLEASE read!
07-25-2011, 04:40 PM
#61
heres the simple answer for that only have kids marshalling 1/10 scale, can you get hurt by them yea but not that bad if one is not paying attention .
i have to say theres way more accicents bmx riding than marshalling r/c, trust me i know and seen it including myself and got of it because of it.
i have to say theres way more accicents bmx riding than marshalling r/c, trust me i know and seen it including myself and got of it because of it.
07-25-2011, 07:29 PM
#62
A tenth scale will kill you, especially if you are hit in the head. Even more so if it's a kid.
My comparison to bike riding was based on percentage. I know there are more deaths & injuries than most people think, but how many people ride bikes? The percentage is infinitesimal.
I played a lot of football on the interior line, thus a big cage on the front of the helmet. Never had a problem with restriction of vision, and the football helmet is, I think, more restrictive than most. The race drivers' helmets I wore also did not restrict vision.
My comparison to bike riding was based on percentage. I know there are more deaths & injuries than most people think, but how many people ride bikes? The percentage is infinitesimal.
I played a lot of football on the interior line, thus a big cage on the front of the helmet. Never had a problem with restriction of vision, and the football helmet is, I think, more restrictive than most. The race drivers' helmets I wore also did not restrict vision.
07-25-2011, 08:08 PM
#64
It 's very interesting reading the posts. as I have a great concern when I'm racing my 1/8 buggy. most the time our race director will call out when you must slow down or just plan stop so you don't hit a turn marshal. Turn marshals are my friends and family even it's the first time racing with them. I dont want to hurt anyone when i'm running my cars but i have come close and it make my heart drop.
08-02-2011, 09:37 AM
#65
Marshals should always have their safety as their number 1 priority. Not affecting the drivers who are still driving is number 2, and correcting the crashed car is number 3...
That being said, I know, especially at some tracks, that you can't have your eyes on everything... so even if your marshalling responsibilities are for two or three different corners near where you stand, keep an eye 90% of the time on the one responsibility that has the highest chance of hurting you!
Here are the rules that I follow when marshalling.
Don't get me wrong, I hustle my butt to get the vehicles back running...I'm one of the few guys that you will see running at a full sprint to get to a crashed car...but I do it more so that I can clear the track of an obstacle, AND so that I can get myself back to the relative safety off the track.
I see too many marshals either getting hit by vehicles, placing vehicles right into the way of oncoming traffic causing another crash, or stepping on vehicles because they have to jump out of the way....
The guy crashed. End of story, end of discussion. In 1:1 racing, his race would be over. Don't interfere with the drivers who haven't crashed in order to quickly get the crashed car back on the track....
If it wasn't for the potential damage to nitro motors, I'd like to see a race day with NO marshalling, and see how many vehicles actually finish each race...never mind how many drivers can make the whole day without being marshalled. Maybe people would drive a little bit more reasonably....
RANT RANT RANT RANT RANT!!! Ok, I'll shut up now...
That being said, I know, especially at some tracks, that you can't have your eyes on everything... so even if your marshalling responsibilities are for two or three different corners near where you stand, keep an eye 90% of the time on the one responsibility that has the highest chance of hurting you!
Here are the rules that I follow when marshalling.
- Make sure there is no traffic coming towards the crash.
- If you have to step onto another part of the track to get to the crash, make sure you aren't going to step into traffic coming that way.
- Pick up the crashed car and turn it over.
- Check that there is still no oncoming traffic
- Put the car down where it can continue on with the race, as close to where it crashed as possible.
- (This one I use for regular club racing...big events, I ignore this rule...) The more the driver yells at me for taking my time, the longer I take to marshal their vehicle. Also, if I'm always flipping the same vehicle over at the same part of the track, lap after lap, I take a little longer each time to put them back on the track....
Don't get me wrong, I hustle my butt to get the vehicles back running...I'm one of the few guys that you will see running at a full sprint to get to a crashed car...but I do it more so that I can clear the track of an obstacle, AND so that I can get myself back to the relative safety off the track.
I see too many marshals either getting hit by vehicles, placing vehicles right into the way of oncoming traffic causing another crash, or stepping on vehicles because they have to jump out of the way....
The guy crashed. End of story, end of discussion. In 1:1 racing, his race would be over. Don't interfere with the drivers who haven't crashed in order to quickly get the crashed car back on the track....
If it wasn't for the potential damage to nitro motors, I'd like to see a race day with NO marshalling, and see how many vehicles actually finish each race...never mind how many drivers can make the whole day without being marshalled. Maybe people would drive a little bit more reasonably....
RANT RANT RANT RANT RANT!!! Ok, I'll shut up now...
08-02-2011, 06:35 PM
#66
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On a big accidnet you will get sued. No waver will save you. They only scare off non serious lawyers. Get a 1 million rider if you are really worried. You can get them if you have a basic level of insurance.
I no longer race at tracks that have jumps that have intentional jumps that launch cars above the head. You know the jumps that are knee high or more. You are asking to get someone hurt. Sorry once you are in the air height only causes massive wear on parts. Calm down the jumps.
I will ask a race director to replace a kid or anyone that does not pay attention with a volunteer.
I look where I stand. You dont want to stand right in the area where cars land. I know it puts me close to where to flip them but hey it puts you close to the car coming over well out of control also. They wrecked. Not my fault. Tracks should define the placed marshals stand that are as safe as reasonable. Enforce them standing in the right places.
I have seen 2 people laid out. They were both at tracks with the superman jumps. One the turnmarshall messed up. The other they guy lost control off the jump and nailed the kid. They had the kid standing in a place too close to the landing of cars. They both went to the hospital and got stitches.
I no longer race at tracks that have jumps that have intentional jumps that launch cars above the head. You know the jumps that are knee high or more. You are asking to get someone hurt. Sorry once you are in the air height only causes massive wear on parts. Calm down the jumps.
I will ask a race director to replace a kid or anyone that does not pay attention with a volunteer.
I look where I stand. You dont want to stand right in the area where cars land. I know it puts me close to where to flip them but hey it puts you close to the car coming over well out of control also. They wrecked. Not my fault. Tracks should define the placed marshals stand that are as safe as reasonable. Enforce them standing in the right places.
I have seen 2 people laid out. They were both at tracks with the superman jumps. One the turnmarshall messed up. The other they guy lost control off the jump and nailed the kid. They had the kid standing in a place too close to the landing of cars. They both went to the hospital and got stitches.
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