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Old 01-24-2010, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MURDEREDOUT View Post
can anyone tell me how much anti squat does a rc10b4 have with out any shims??? is it zero, or two cuz i on the associated web site it says 2 degree anti squat but does that mean you can go up to two degrees or you could have a total of 5 degrees if you stack both spacers under the block.
no shims = zero anti squat.
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Originally Posted by rripp View Post
Here is the lightweight setup that me and another team driver came up with for the track in STL. The track has some clay in it but it is not a sticky clay track. This setup would be too soft for sticky clay. We went from stuggling to run with the new Kyosho truck to just running against each other. Setup is transforming on our track.

T4 Setup:

Front:
3 piston, 25 wt, 2 limiters, silver spring, outside on arm, middle on tower, 30* blocks, 2 spindle washers, 2B camber with 1 washer.

Rear:
1 piston, 25 wt, no limiters, black spring with 2 coils cut off (need b44 offset spring cups so you can get the correct ride height), inside on arm, inside on tower, 2* antisquat, .5* Racers edge hubs spaced back, 1B camber link with 1 washer.

Battery forward (5000 Reedy), 8.5 motor (LRP X12 with stock 12.5mm rotor) with 87/21 gearing. No weight added.

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Rod,I have a few questions about your set-up.First,how much camber front and rear are you running?and what ride heights are you running?Also what front axle height are you running?
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:01 PM
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What do you mean by spindle washers? and what does 2B camber mean?

Originally Posted by rripp View Post
Here is the lightweight setup that me and another team driver came up with for the track in STL. The track has some clay in it but it is not a sticky clay track. This setup would be too soft for sticky clay. We went from stuggling to run with the new Kyosho truck to just running against each other. Setup is transforming on our track.

T4 Setup:

Front:
3 piston, 25 wt, 2 limiters, silver spring, outside on arm, middle on tower, 30* blocks, 2 spindle washers, 2B camber with 1 washer.

Rear:
1 piston, 25 wt, no limiters, black spring with 2 coils cut off (need b44 offset spring cups so you can get the correct ride height), inside on arm, inside on tower, 2* antisquat, .5* Racers edge hubs spaced back, 1B camber link with 1 washer.

Battery forward (5000 Reedy), 8.5 motor (LRP X12 with stock 12.5mm rotor) with 87/21 gearing. No weight added.

Jconcepts blue carvers and Jconcepts blue barcodes scrubbed way down with stock JC foams.
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Also another question, what do you guys use for limiters on the inside of the shock? O-rings? Plastic bushings? And another thing, are the bleeder caps really that beneficial? Is there any kind of bladder you can get for t4/b4 shocks like 1/8 scale?
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Originally Posted by PHI2 View Post
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Just wondering if someone could give me a starting point for a 13.5 in a t4 that I`m building up for a guy. He is only going to use it for bashing in the back yard. Thanks in advance
Big Mac
Go to www.comeseethis.com to answer your brushless gearing questions.
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Originally Posted by spierski0313 View Post
Also another question, what do you guys use for limiters on the inside of the shock? O-rings? Plastic bushings? And another thing, are the bleeder caps really that beneficial? Is there any kind of bladder you can get for t4/b4 shocks like 1/8 scale?
i just use the old thin spacers from old rebuilds as limiters. as for bladders, one of the local fast guys tried the vcs2 shock kits and bladders, he said they were okay. but the ae shocks are made to work with all the air in there so its all mushy with air and stuff.
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so on setups from ae's website, when they say 6 limiters, they mean 6 of those or what?
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Originally Posted by spierski0313 View Post
so on setups from ae's website, when they say 6 limiters, they mean 6 of those or what?
Associated sells white plastic washers in 0.030", 0.060" and .120" sizes.

If the setup says six washers or six limiters it typically refers to the smallest size. You can use any combination you want to get the same amount of limiting.

Washers on the steering spindles are typically used to remove bump-steer in the front suspension. The B4 manual explains when you should use these limiters and how many. 25 degree blocks and steering spindles in the middle of the caster block typically require one spacer under the ballstud. Add another if you run the spindles in the down position.

Checking out the manual or the B4 setup guide explains this much better.
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Originally Posted by spierski0313 View Post
so on setups from ae's website, when they say 6 limiters, they mean 6 of those or what?
correct.
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for the buggy class, is it realllllly hard to get into buggy and go modified with a 5.5t brushless motor........ or should I go with the stock 27t brushed motor to start?


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i cant find those washers on any site, is there a part number?
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Originally Posted by spierski0313 View Post
i cant find those washers on any site, is there a part number?
Here ya go:

http://67.199.85.166/main/productdetails.php?text=4187
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Originally Posted by microbomb View Post
for the buggy class, is it realllllly hard to get into buggy and go modified with a 5.5t brushless motor........ or should I go with the stock 27t brushed motor to start?


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5.5?! holy crap!
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Originally Posted by Mack_Mechanic View Post
Rod,I have a few questions about your set-up.First,how much camber front and rear are you running?and what ride heights are you running?Also what front axle height are you running?
Camber is always between -.5 and -1. Ride height is 30mm front and 29 rear but that is about all I ever change. Usually raise up for low traction and lower for higher traction.

Front axle height centered.
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Originally Posted by spierski0313 View Post
What do you mean by spindle washers? and what does 2B camber mean?
Spindle washers are the .030 aluminum or plastic washers that you put on the spindle ballstud for bumpsteer.

On camber links, if you look at a setup sheet on rc10.com it will show you what I mean. From inside to outside is 1, 2 then A, B, C.
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