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Old 06-03-2009, 11:00 AM
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Why are you looking to go softer? Need more steering? There are other ways to get steering then digging threw every car ever built looking for a softer spring.

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I want to run more leverage on the front arm (bottom of shocks at out side hole), which makes the car more stable, but I lose some off power steering. I am hoping a softer spring could help gain more off power steering into corners. Any suggestions?
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:06 PM
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I want to run more leverage on the front arm (bottom of shocks at out side hole), which makes the car more stable, but I lose some off power steering. I am hoping a softer spring could help gain more off power steering into corners. Any suggestions?
Have you tryed inline axles? They will give you alot more steering on and off power.
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:19 PM
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Have you tryed inline axles? They will give you alot more steering on and off power.
I have not tried the inline axle. I was told that it doesn't increase overall on and off power steering, it just make the steering more responsive and twitchier. Have you tried it?
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I have not tried the inline axle. I was told that it doesn't increase overall on and off power steering, it just make the steering more responsive and twitchier. Have you tried it?
Yes its more twitchier and i seen a increase in steering alot more steering.
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Old 06-03-2009, 09:32 PM
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I want to run more leverage on the front arm (bottom of shocks at out side hole), which makes the car more stable, but I lose some off power steering. I am hoping a softer spring could help gain more off power steering into corners. Any suggestions?
Not sure if this will help but, here goes. A new guys side of a b4 on clay.

Wet clay with taper pin slicks is nuts. Loads of steering and the ass to hold on to it! #1 35wt front/#2 30wt rear. Front shock outside on arm. Dialed

Half dry with barcodes. Push's pretty bad but you can step on it as hard as you want. The tail on this thing can take it.Tried #2 30wt front/#2 25wt rear. Front shock on inside hole. Did help with the steering and was just as stable as #1 piston with outside hole.

Pretty dusty (today) with barcodes. I hated the rear with the 25wt and #2's so I put a #3 back there and it drove the same but landed a ton better. Way more stable. I think Im gonna go to #2 30wt front/rear to get it better balanced. Tried a pair of taper pins AFTER the main and the car really free'd up. Stuck really good too. Guess it was too dusty for the bc? REALLY should have tried the tp BEFORE the main. Oh well. I only got beat by 6 secs

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Have you tryed inline axles? They will give you alot more steering on and off power.
You are such the man. Thats one of those, why didnt i think about that kinda things.

Anyway, from what Ive found out in 3 races is its all about tires, tires and tires. Pick a setup close to what you run on and then look at a few diffrent tires and inserts. Playing with the car can only tune so far. The tires have to be 90% there first. HTH

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Old 06-04-2009, 05:03 AM
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Can you bring a 4* toe in anti squat block to pheasant run forme to pick up sat. I,m coming up from chicago to try to steal some points.
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Originally Posted by billythekid View Post
I want to run more leverage on the front arm (bottom of shocks at out side hole), which makes the car more stable, but I lose some off power steering. I am hoping a softer spring could help gain more off power steering into corners. Any suggestions?
Try loweing the front ride height or raising the rear just a little. One or two turns on the shock thread should do it. That will force more weight onto the front wheels.
The other thing is to check your diff. If it's too tight it creates a push and you'll feel like the car wants to straighten out through a turn.

I would check the diff first and then adjust the ride height. Do them separately and test each separately so you know what each change did.
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Can you bring a 4* toe in anti squat block to pheasant run forme to pick up sat. I,m coming up from chicago to try to steal some points.
Thx.
sure, just come see me or ask around up there. 99% of everyone knows me
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Chedda...Think you will have a spare block for a b4 with you? I might have to try it sat. I only have 3 races on a buggy and I have never raced a buggy on an outdoor track. No clue what to exspect. Im thinking it might be lose on power but not sure.

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Try loweing the front ride height or raising the rear just a little. One or two turns on the shock thread should do it. That will force more weight onto the front wheels.
Thanks for the suggestions. I prefer to use softer spring than messing with the ride height as that could make the car jump weird.
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Chedda...Think you will have a spare block for a b4 with you? I might have to try it sat. I only have 3 races on a buggy and I have never raced a buggy on an outdoor track. No clue what to exspect. Im thinking it might be lose on power but not sure.

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Originally Posted by billythekid View Post
Thanks for the suggestions. I prefer to use softer spring than messing with the ride height as that could make the car jump weird.
Actually changing ride hieght can change the way the weight transfers in smaller increments than changing a whole spring rate. Same with shock angle. I usually run the rear bones level and the front a little higher.

BTW, its amazing what a full round on the shock actually does.
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Old 06-04-2009, 04:27 PM
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Does anyone know when the new B5 will be released?
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Old 06-04-2009, 04:35 PM
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Does anyone know when the new B5 will be released?
I would think in the next 2-3 years or so.
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Does anyone know when the new B5 will be released?
when associated runs out of money
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