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Old 05-12-2009, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Davidka View Post
Interesting, because the claimed speed of the BLS451 is faster than the S9551 (0.10 vs 0.11). Is it possible that the setup that has the 451 in it set up so that all of the servo's travel is being used while the S9551's setup only uses part of it's available travel?

I have a BLS451 in my 1/8 buggy's steering and I have never seen a servo this fast before.

I apologize, it was a typo. I was comparing 9551 with BLS452, not BLS451.

Anyway, I just purchased BLS451 today, so I am going to test and see if it is much faster than BLS452. I hope it is

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Old 05-12-2009, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 57 View Post
Basic set-up question...

Just finished building a Factory Team B4. Stock recommendations as per instructions. Put the LiPo in the more forward position.

Not getting enough steering. Do I need to add weight forward? Adjust ride height? Oil weight? Shorten wheel base?

Running on a relatively smooth, high traction clay track.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!!
I think you should try different front tires. I found that in off road, tire selections make more difference than suspension changes.
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Old 05-12-2009, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by billythekid View Post
I think you should try different front tires. I found that in off road, tire selections make more difference than suspension changes.
What he said! Tires are pretty much... 75% of the battle, and then... adding or removing washers under the front/rear shock tower ballstuds.

1.Start with Ryan Cavilieri's 2007 HotRod Hobbies/Trackside setup (If you can find a 2009 current version with a track surface that compares to yours, then use that!)
2.Find out what tires the fast guys are using, also what foams in the rear tire..
3.Make your car minimum ROAR weight or more, and place the weight correctly..
4. Then try the front shock tower ball stud with 1 washer, then with no washers. And see where you need to go from there. Refer to the back of the manual to find out what taking/adding them does.

(Most likely.. you will want to use front brown, rear green springs. If its alittle bumpy, may want silver springs in the rear)
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Originally Posted by billythekid View Post
I apologize, it was a typo. I was comparing 9551 with BLS452, not BLS451.

Anyway, I just purchased BLS451 today, so I am going to test and see if it is much faster than BLS452. I hope it is

Oya, I can see how they seemed that different then. The 452 would probably make a good buggy steering servo since it's got so much torque but it's a bit slower than the 451. I was a little scared to get my fingers near the steering linkage of my buggy when I put that thing in. One glitch and I would lose a finger.
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Originally Posted by Davidka View Post
Oya, I can see how they seemed that different then. The 452 would probably make a good buggy steering servo since it's got so much torque but it's a bit slower than the 451. I was a little scared to get my fingers near the steering linkage of my buggy when I put that thing in. One glitch and I would lose a finger.
I just tested the 451, and it is quicker than 452. The torque is very strong too, it is very difficult to stall it with my finger. I am happy with it and I will get a few more for my other cars. I appreciate all your advice, everyone.

Have anyone tried the MRT transponder in off road? I saw Hara using it in his on road cars, but not sure if it is durable enough for off road wear and tear.

http://www.team-mrt.com/
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Originally Posted by PartTime View Post
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57..where are you looking for steering? on power? off power? going in to the corner? coming out?
If your just looking for more steering everywhere then start looking at tires.

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sorry guys, gosh he asked a setup question, not a tire question. I gave him what he asked for.
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Originally Posted by BSchorr View Post
What he said! Tires are pretty much... 75% of the battle, and then... adding or removing washers under the front/rear shock tower ballstuds.

1.Start with Ryan Cavilieri's 2007 HotRod Hobbies/Trackside setup (If you can find a 2009 current version with a track surface that compares to yours, then use that!)
2.Find out what tires the fast guys are using, also what foams in the rear tire..
3.Make your car minimum ROAR weight or more, and place the weight correctly..
4. Then try the front shock tower ball stud with 1 washer, then with no washers. And see where you need to go from there. Refer to the back of the manual to find out what taking/adding them does.

(Most likely.. you will want to use front brown, rear green springs. If its alittle bumpy, may want silver springs in the rear)

Normally I would set the suspension to handle the jumps and bumps, and use tires to set the turning and traction characteristics of the car. Unless I am in a controlled tire race, I normally do not try to tune the turning characteristics with suspension, because the effects are generally too subtle and with the constantly changing off road track condition, it is quite difficult to tell which way the setting changes are leading to.

I am not saying suspension setting is not important, they need to be in the ball park to start off with. My suggestion is to start with one of AE's team driver's setting, and you should not be too far off.
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sorry guys, gosh he asked a setup question, not a tire question. I gave him what he asked for.
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Originally Posted by rcman1993 View Post
sorry guys, gosh he asked a setup question, not a tire question. I gave him what he asked for.
I think tire is a big part of setup. Different tires and foam inserts combinations give the car different traction characteristics. Some tires give better turnin, some give better turn out. Without the ball park combination of tires/inserts, no matter how you set the suspension, you will not be able to get the characteristics that you want. This is just from my personal experience in off road.
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I have the bls-451 in my t4 and it is by far the best servo i have used. It is quick and smooth.
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Has anyone tried the MRT PTX clone transponder in off road? I saw Hara using it in his on road cars, but not sure if it is durable enough for off road wear and tear.

http://www.team-mrt.com/
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Originally Posted by billythekid View Post
Has anyone tried the MRT PTX clone transponder in off road? I saw Hara using it in his on road cars, but not sure if it is durable enough for off road wear and tear.

http://www.team-mrt.com/
I recently swapped out all 5 of my personals in my T4, B4, B44, RC8, and SC10 with the PTX and they are the best option out there for amb systems.
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