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Old 12-09-2008, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Davidka View Post
I run @ 53.5 oz with about the same setup as the AE guys use with heavy stuff. My car is really fast. The biggest thing is not to over-motor it.

Here's a link, post it up.

http://www.rc10.com/racerhub/setup/B4_blank_input.pdf

Edit, I think I have the weight wrong, I believe I'm @ 55.5oz.
This is what im doing for both of my vehicles with some good finishes, my truck and buggy run about 2.5 oz over with 1.5 oz in the back.
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Old 12-09-2008, 12:00 PM
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I've got 1oz. behind the rear bulkhead and 2.5oz along the right side of the battery both to add weight and offset the weight of the GTB on the other side.
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry View Post
Dang !

Here`s a taste ...


remove all weight including the 1.5oz in back
drill 4th hole on rear tower

Ft shock =35w, #2 , .030 inside, thread shock end all the way, shock in middle tower, inside on arm, Brown spring

Rear shock
25w #2 silver spring inside on arm

will post compete set-up tonight...
What kinda track surface?
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Old 12-09-2008, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Davidka View Post
If you run on low traction, larger tracks the "L" series motors can be good. They are like the triple wind version of BL motors. They do sacrafice total power, the 7.5L makes the same wattage as the 10.5 standard version. The 7.5 would have much more revability.

You will also find that BL motors, especailly the milder ones (8.5 through 17.5) like to be geared tall. They actually gain bottom end with taller gearing because they react well to the load. Be careful no to go too far, you will want to watch motor temps.

I run a 10.5 geared 25/81 and that's actually pretty low for that motor.
Thank you very much! That was the kind of info I was looking for!

I'm currently gearing a 10.5 at 26/81 as of last week. Didn't know you could go that high but man what a difference! May go higher tomorrow in club racing.
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Old 12-10-2008, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by AxiomJacob View Post
What kinda track surface?
For hard pack clay ...

and a 5000 Reedy Li-Po ....

Its a brand new set-up , and not developed by me.
I stole it from a Ae factory team driver just last week end....
he got it last Tuesday...


I`v use ballast & Li-Po for years until I drove my B-4 set-up this way ....


Anyone who has`nt tried this will be thanking me next week big time....

Strongly recommend you guys try ....

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Old 12-10-2008, 12:58 AM
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What about camber links/washers/anti squat/ caster blocks, bumpsteer/ rear hubs??? All the same as before?

Hard packed clay. Is it slicks type traction?
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Old 12-10-2008, 01:22 AM
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Default Ae Factory Lite set-up

Front

Ft ball stud .060 , I`m using .090 (more = smoother steering)

30 Gt-2 Caster block , axle in the middle

Ft camber
A hole caster block & #1 on tower

Ft shock
#2 hole shock tower & I hole on arm
35W #2 piston , .030 limiter, brown spring, Thread bottom shock eyelet all the way


Rear
Drill 4th hole on tower next to hole #1

camber
rear ball stud .030 #1 hole & B hole on rear hub

rear shock
4th hole on tower, I hole on arm
30w #2 piston, silver spring .060 limiter

rear Hub forward on arm
2 anti squat
CvD`s
.060 bump steer
JConcept gold compound Bar Code ft & rear tire, 3/4 rear insert ft tire & standard insert in rear
Trinity Buggy Grip
Ft arm level & rear dogbone level

Lrp X-11 10.5 78/26
Reedy 5000 Li-Po
Lrp Competition ESC
3/16 off set motor plate ( More on this coming )

Note :

remove all ballast including 1 1/2 oz on rear
you can use 7gram on receiver side to off set ESC weight if you like

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Thanks WC.
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I have tried that setup from wild cherry awhile back and still found the car handled better at nimh weight especially on slippery or bumpy tracks.
cheers
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:25 AM
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Has anyone tried the Trinity 13.5 BL motors in there T4/B4??? Should I gear it too the moon like everyone else does with their stock BL motors??
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Originally Posted by d4man View Post
Has anyone tried the Trinity 13.5 BL motors in there T4/B4??? Should I gear it too the moon like everyone else does with their stock BL motors??
I run Murfdogg motors which are trinity based.

A good starting point;

On the T4 Try 78/28 and temp.
On the B4 I really like 76/34 The 76 is a Kyosho spur with the white pads.

AE is going to release a 72 and 75 spur any day now so the Kyosho spur will not be needed.
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76/34 ? WOW what kind of temps are you gettin in a 6 min run?
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Originally Posted by Jube View Post
76/34 ? WOW what kind of temps are you gettin in a 6 min run?
Surprizingly Cool, 145

with a 17.5 we run 65/33 to 69/32 depending on the track and they are good.
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Thanks What up

Just as I thought, geared to the moon!!! I don't have any pinions that big. I have the 78 spur. I hope AE releases the new spur gears before Midwest Champs @ CRCRC.
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Originally Posted by What up? View Post
I run Murfdogg motors which are trinity based.

A good starting point;

On the T4 Try 78/28 and temp.
On the B4 I really like 76/34 The 76 is a Kyosho spur with the white pads.

AE is going to release a 72 and 75 spur any day now so the Kyosho spur will not be needed.
No offense to Murfdogg motors. But what exactly is he doing to tune a brushless motor? About the only potential that I see is 1. Testing to make sure it's not a dud. 2. Replacing the bearings with ceramics (which I doubt they're doing)

Would be interested in knowing.

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