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Old 10-08-2004, 09:24 AM   #1
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Hello im looking for some tires. Im not really good with tires. its for my xxx-t. For this track (picture is below)(i hope). Can anybody suggest a web site or somewhere i can get some good tires, Front and back. (on the cheaper side would be nice but i dont really care.) Incase you cant really see the picture the dirt is hard underneath and it has kind of a loose layer on top.

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It depends on how loose and deep the top layer is. The more loamy stuff there is sitting on top the bigger pin you need.

Biggest Pin
-Step-pin http://www.teamlosi.com/newprod/tire...epics/7636.jpg
-Ifmar-pin http://www.teamlosi.com/newprod/tire...epics/7638.jpg
-king-pin
http://www.teamlosi.com/newprod/2004prods/king-pin.htm
-T-2000 http://www.teamlosi.com/newprod/tire...epics/7641.jpg
-Taper-pin http://www.teamlosi.com/newprod/tire...epics/7635.jpg
Smallest Pin

As for the front the more loamy it is, the more buisness you want the tire to have to grab on to anything because the front end is slipping under the soft stuff.

Razor-rib http://www.teamlosi.com/newprod/tire...epics/7509.jpg
Directional http://www.teamlosi.com/newprod/tire...epics/7505.jpg
8-rib http://www.teamlosi.com/newprod/tire...epics/7507.jpg

I don't know how deep your track is but I'd start with IFMAR-PIN red coupound in the rear and DIRECTIONAL red coupound in the front.
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You should really just ask the "fast-guys" at your track because they've obviouesly got it figured out.
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Picking the correct tires is almost an art. It takes alot of experience but there are a few rules and generalizations.

The number one rule is to know the softest compound isn't always the best. Once a person learn's that and applies it their thinking it get's easier. The compound you want to use is the compound that "hooks up" better overall. Alot of times the harder compound just works with the dirt better.

The first thing I look at when trying to look at the track to determine a tire choice is the dust level. The more dust the more pin you will want to run. The less dust the less pin you will need.

The second item I look at is dampness. IF the track has alot of moister then you can run smaller pins than on a dry track IF and ONLY IF that moister increases the friction coefficient of the the surface. In other words does the moister increase traction. Sometimes moister can just make the track feel slimmy or greasy.

The third thing when selecting a tire is determining the abrasion level. If the track is abrasive to the tire and makes it wear quickly then you can either try a harder compound of that tread design or try a tread design that likes more abrasive conditions. A softer compound or less tread design may be faster but only for a few runs until it's worn out. That's when you got to decide if the speed of the tire is worth the cost of replacing it often.

Then the forth thing I look at is the the physical hardness of the track. The harder the track the more the track is a friction track and the less pin you need to run or the more rubber you need to get to the track. The harder the track the more closely the pins or studds can be together. The softer the track the more aggress tread pattern you need to run.

So in review you select a tire by looking at

1. Dust
2. Dampness
3. Abrasion
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The rabbit hole goes even deeper when you bring Tire foam into the equation. stiffer foam is the same as increasing the air pressure of the tire and softer foam is like decreasing the air pressure. So, on really high traction tracks you might want a stiffer foam so you have less tire side-wall flex. On loose tracks you'd want a softer foam to allow for flex and overall increased traction.
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OK that helps out

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Where??

I dont have much money i know its like $7-8 for rims and i think like $12 - 20 for tires.

Thats like $40 for a full set. anybody know how to get some cheper than that for an electric xxxt?

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Tires cost what they cost....you'd be hard pressed to get them cheaper than they are at your LHS. Besides, as long as you don't run them on the street, they'll last you for a good while. If you want more time from your tire, get a hard compound and a stiff foam, that way the tire as a whole will support itself better and in turn last a little longer.
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i like the pro line square fuzzy for my dirt outside. its hard, very hard, with alot of sandy silt on top. m2 square fuzzies hook up really well. if its any looser on top, id go with step pins, always with firmer foams.

when its really dry out i run fuzzies up front too, they bite a little bit better than the losi directionals which i swear by. some argue with me, but it does hook up remarkably well. if its not too dry but not damp, i run losi directionals up front and fuzzies in the rear, usually in m3. i burn tires up fast but they really claw through the loam and corner great, but they can be a little too grippy. i switch back n forth between m2 and m3 depending on the silt.
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