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Old 12-13-2011 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MantisWorx
dif fluids have nothing to do with top speed, you need to go up to at least a 14. the truck is light, run for about 3min and temp it needs to be around 150 ish at that point which will end up around 170 in a race.
Glad the pistons and disc worked out for ya!!
Thanks, I'm going to play with the gears later this week. I know the fluids don't effect speed in the way of ratios, I was thinking more along the lines of resistance. Prior to the 30k the heaviest fluid I have ever run is 7k on my 1/8 scale. Squeezing the tube of 30k was kinda like squeezing a tube of toothpaste. I guess my school of thought when asking that question was the more free the truck is the faster the truck will be and by adding to much resistance you would get the same effect as running the same motor in a heavier truck by increasing load on the motor and drivetrain. Sorry for the long explanation of a simple question, just didn't want you to think I was some idiot that thought diff fluids effected gear ratios in some way.
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Old 12-13-2011 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by lawnmowerjockey
Thanks, I'm going to play with the gears later this week. I know the fluids don't effect speed in the way of ratios, I was thinking more along the lines of resistance. Prior to the 30k the heaviest fluid I have ever run is 7k on my 1/8 scale. Squeezing the tube of 30k was kinda like squeezing a tube of toothpaste. I guess my school of thought when asking that question was the more free the truck is the faster the truck will be and by adding to much resistance you would get the same effect as running the same motor in a heavier truck by increasing load on the motor and drivetrain. Sorry for the long explanation of a simple question, just didn't want you to think I was some idiot that thought diff fluids effected gear ratios in some way.

HAHAHA, its all good! when you are going straight there is no "dif" action so it doesnt matter what fluid you run.
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Old 12-13-2011 | 07:09 AM
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I hadn't thought about it like that. Now I feel like that idiot I was speaking of earlier. I really appreciate everyones help. I will prob be picking yalls brain some more as I am really getting into this sc. My 1/8 scale has pretty much been sitting on the shelf for the last month.

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Old 12-13-2011 | 07:32 AM
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So after going through my used SC10 and getting everything ready for last weekends race, thanks to Mantis/Coyote/Craig for setup and build guidance, I did notice the extreme amount of play in the outdrives. As I was reading through the entire thread I saw it mentioned several times but no discussion in recent weeks. I wound up pulling shims from an OFNA shim kit, any of you nitro guys out there will no the one I'm referring to, and shimming the diffs. I was able to get all of the slop out of the outdrives but the tradeoff was increased parasytic drag on the drivetrain. The truck drove great throughout the day, the only changes I made were to go from bladder based shocks to emulsion and play with my ride height to avoid traction rolling at the end of our 220' straight.

My question is has anyone found a nice compromise of wobble and fitment using other shims? If you use two of the stock diff shims does that create too much bind in the outdrive?

Also, my new Exotek saddle pack conversion arrived today which is just in time for a big indoor race I have coming up this weekend. Which begs the question, what is the largest hardcase lipo saddle pack you guys have found that will fit in this car and not make it handle like an absolute turd?
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Old 12-13-2011 | 07:35 AM
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The best thing I've found to shim the out drives is Nitro clutch shims. Very thin and seem to do the job.

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Old 12-13-2011 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by munrath
The best thing I've found to shim the out drives is Nitro clutch shims. Very thin and seem to do the job.

Mark
Mark, the OFNA shim kit I used is intended for shimming nitro setups and you are right they are thin. The binding I felt was not extreme just a bit tight. I plan to tear into them again this week to see how they look. If all is well then game on!
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Old 12-13-2011 | 09:43 AM
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can anyone post up a good high traction setup? looking for one due to high speed sweepers, truck seems to want to slide out on throttle. running barcodes as of right now but may try wishbones


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Old 12-13-2011 | 09:49 AM
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Check out the setup sheets for last weeks spectrum race, that track is just about exactly what ur racing on
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Old 12-13-2011 | 09:53 AM
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Friday night at practice was talking with national champion AE driver Ryan Cavalieri. after running my truck in practice a few times i felt it was good for racing . and i thought to myself lets just see how good it is so i asked Ryan if he would take it around the track and see what he thought and if i should change anything ? after two laps of getting used to how the truck handled he started to put the power down he was pulling 16 sec laps the best dakotah phend did was in the 17 sec range . after he ran the truck for about 6 minuets he handed me back the radio and said the truck was good but for him he would like a faster servo . i was running in the 20-19 sec range . long story short i qualified 7th in the A we did triple A mains i finished 8th over all due too being where i started on the grid was taken out every time .

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Old 12-13-2011 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by rickybobbyxxx
Check out the setup sheets for last weeks spectrum race, that track is just about exactly what ur racing on

is that on AE's website?

thanks, D
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Old 12-13-2011 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by derbrylac
can anyone post up a good high traction setup? looking for one due to high speed sweepers, truck seems to want to slide out on throttle. running barcodes as of right now but may try wishbones


thanks, D
4-5mm front inner camber shim

2mm rear inner camber shim

thicker front diff oil

barcodes, as you run, but with JC Hazard rims (+3mm wider)

really helped me


also getting off throttle early then taking sweeper on-power
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Old 12-13-2011 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by JayL
4-5mm front inner camber shim

2mm rear inner camber shim

thicker front diff oil

barcodes, as you run, but with JC Hazard rims (+3mm wider)

really helped me


also getting off throttle early then taking sweeper on-power


thanks man gonna try this out later at my local track and go from there
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Old 12-13-2011 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by lawnmowerjockey
Thanks, I'm going to play with the gears later this week. I know the fluids don't effect speed in the way of ratios, I was thinking more along the lines of resistance. Prior to the 30k the heaviest fluid I have ever run is 7k on my 1/8 scale. Squeezing the tube of 30k was kinda like squeezing a tube of toothpaste. I guess my school of thought when asking that question was the more free the truck is the faster the truck will be and by adding to much resistance you would get the same effect as running the same motor in a heavier truck by increasing load on the motor and drivetrain. Sorry for the long explanation of a simple question, just didn't want you to think I was some idiot that thought diff fluids effected gear ratios in some way.
I don't think it would affect top speed because when both wheels are spinning the inner gears are "locked" and not moving within the case.
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Old 12-13-2011 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by derbrylac
is that on AE's website?

thanks, D


Found Chad Dues SC10 2w set-up

www.trackside.com click on resources on the header

I know not 4w .....
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Old 12-13-2011 | 11:20 AM
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Cool SC10 4X4 Aluminum Screw Set

Is there a need to upgade to SC10 4X4 Aluminum Screw Set?
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