SC10 4x4 Thread
#707
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@jstall:
are the bars supposed to move side to side completely or are they supposed to be anchored in the middle? I know sway bard prevent traction rolling at high speeds but most kits i have even the scte have the sway bars bolted down on the middle portion with small grub screws..??? i just assumed that they needed to be anchored down in the middle somehow but IDK...they do move side to side still as well as up and down...
are the bars supposed to move side to side completely or are they supposed to be anchored in the middle? I know sway bard prevent traction rolling at high speeds but most kits i have even the scte have the sway bars bolted down on the middle portion with small grub screws..??? i just assumed that they needed to be anchored down in the middle somehow but IDK...they do move side to side still as well as up and down...
#708
So I am trying a 540 set up with a RS pro. I left out the removable tray and most of the rear bumper to make it as light as possible. Ready to run I am at 90.5 oz. So that gave me a different problem. Now that am running with the lighter radio gear I had to add 1.5oz. of weight way out on the left nerf bar to balance the chassis weight out (back to 92oz.). Seems using an RX8 speed control and the 550 motor would be the way to go to get the best power and balance.
Dude !
Lrp V2 with the fan !!!!!
No heat issues......
I'm using the Novak 5.5 550 , awesome smooth, comes in at 130 degree....
( not too fast for TRCR, maybe a 6.5 for Portland R/c )
Tip
Don't brother trying the 13t as in the manual, go 15T ....
My Novak is bringing me great top end and plenty of power for the jumps....
Set-up
5m washer under ft camber stud & outside on the stud mount on tower.
30W ft
25W R
5000 in both diff
rest of box set-up...
Drives so good I don't what to change it ...
So
Don't worry bout the Bars , I don't want um or need...
Last edited by Wild Cherry; 05-12-2011 at 11:01 PM.
#709
Dude !
Lrp V2 with the fan !!!!!
No heat issues......
I'm using the Novak 5.5 550 , awesome smooth, comes in at 130 degree....
( not too fast for TRCR, maybe a 6.5 for Portland R/c )
Tip
Don't brother trying the 13t as in the manual, go 15T ....
My Novak is bringing me great top end and plenty of power for the jumps....
Lrp V2 with the fan !!!!!
No heat issues......
I'm using the Novak 5.5 550 , awesome smooth, comes in at 130 degree....
( not too fast for TRCR, maybe a 6.5 for Portland R/c )
Tip
Don't brother trying the 13t as in the manual, go 15T ....
My Novak is bringing me great top end and plenty of power for the jumps....
He will have a 550 out soon. 
I'm picking up a fan tomorrow to have just in case.
#710
Fan GOOOD
540 should be even quieter (48p), just wanted you to know the power of these new 550 motors are not so scary fast or what ever.
Very happy with this ride...
First impressions
Drives like the 2w
just that it has a bit more traction & steering , the 4w pulls smart out of the turns ...
Jumps great, a real good flyer ...
It sure is quite like every one says...
#711
#715
@jstall:
are the bars supposed to move side to side completely or are they supposed to be anchored in the middle? I know sway bard prevent traction rolling at high speeds but most kits i have even the scte have the sway bars bolted down on the middle portion with small grub screws..??? i just assumed that they needed to be anchored down in the middle somehow but IDK...they do move side to side still as well as up and down...
are the bars supposed to move side to side completely or are they supposed to be anchored in the middle? I know sway bard prevent traction rolling at high speeds but most kits i have even the scte have the sway bars bolted down on the middle portion with small grub screws..??? i just assumed that they needed to be anchored down in the middle somehow but IDK...they do move side to side still as well as up and down...
#716
If the bar is working you should be able to lift one wheel and the other side should attempt to move or move alot depending on bar thickness and tension. Side to side movement is ok as long as the twist of the bar isn't prevented. As in your case I think twist might be limited. Test it out and see if you like it. If it works good then I'm probably wrong!
#717
Just finished up my sway bars. TC3 upper ends (where bar goes into) and Traxxas rod ends that go into a-arm. Trim .075 to .100 off rear Traxxas ball ends to shorten the length to clear camber link better.
I tossed a Traxxas Titan 550 in it and ran it for 1hr on a stand to break it in. Taking it out for the 1st time later today. Tekin 4.5 and LRP TC Spec. Starting at a 13t pinion, some shock oil changes, and diff fluid changes. I made a few passes down the street and then ran in deep gress for 3-4 min and the motor was prob 105 deg.
I tossed a Traxxas Titan 550 in it and ran it for 1hr on a stand to break it in. Taking it out for the 1st time later today. Tekin 4.5 and LRP TC Spec. Starting at a 13t pinion, some shock oil changes, and diff fluid changes. I made a few passes down the street and then ran in deep gress for 3-4 min and the motor was prob 105 deg.
#718
Cheers
#719
the swaybars do have to have some movement.
If you lockup your swaybars at the chassis completly, then the swaybars will not work properly
The effectiveness of the sway bar you run depend also on the weight of spring you run.
With the sway bar tying both the left and right side together, the sway bar must overcome the weight of the spring on the opposite side as one side compresses.
A softer front bar:
1. Increases front chassis roll.
2. Increases front grip or traction, while decreasing rear grip or traction.
3. Slower steering response.
4. Increases off-power steering at corner entry.
A stiffer front bar:
1. Decreases front chassis roll.
2. Decreases front grip or traction, while increasing rear grip or traction.
3. Faster steering response.
4. Decreases off-power steering at corner entry.
A softer rear bar:
1. Increases rear chassis roll
2. Increases rear grip or traction, while decreasing front grip or traction.
3. Less on-power steering.
A stiffer rear bar:
1. Decreases rear chassis roll.
2. Decreases rear traction, while increasing front grip or traction.
3. Faster steering response in high speed corners and chicanes.
4. Increases on-power steering.
If you lockup your swaybars at the chassis completly, then the swaybars will not work properly
The effectiveness of the sway bar you run depend also on the weight of spring you run.
With the sway bar tying both the left and right side together, the sway bar must overcome the weight of the spring on the opposite side as one side compresses.
A softer front bar:
1. Increases front chassis roll.
2. Increases front grip or traction, while decreasing rear grip or traction.
3. Slower steering response.
4. Increases off-power steering at corner entry.
A stiffer front bar:
1. Decreases front chassis roll.
2. Decreases front grip or traction, while increasing rear grip or traction.
3. Faster steering response.
4. Decreases off-power steering at corner entry.
A softer rear bar:
1. Increases rear chassis roll
2. Increases rear grip or traction, while decreasing front grip or traction.
3. Less on-power steering.
A stiffer rear bar:
1. Decreases rear chassis roll.
2. Decreases rear traction, while increasing front grip or traction.
3. Faster steering response in high speed corners and chicanes.
4. Increases on-power steering.
#720
Finished the sc10 and drove it at the track last week and loved it. The kit went together very easily and I had no missing parts. Just for your info guys, I suggest taking all 4 shocks apart because including myself, 3 people had a problem with the screw coming off the top of the shock shaft that holds the piston on. It came off on one of my shocks so I checke them all and they were loose. Nothing a lil loctite can't fix. Went 27.5 in the rear and 32.5 in the front... Perfect



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